Nudists - Asexual Eunuchs?

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Male | Corona, California United States | 51

RE: Sexual charge to nudism and nudity

I agree with you.
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Male | Tornado Alley, Oklahoma United States | 64

RE: Nudists - Asexual Eunuchs?

Asexual Eunuchs
Is that the image that we wish to convey?
We encounter sexuality in some form or other constantly in our daily lives. Turning on the TV, we find it in the commercials, the carefully made up weather lady, the situation comedies and elsewhere. At the grocery store, we will, on occasion, spot a member of the opposite sex which we find attractive and warrants a second look. What male has not encountered a waitress who flirts a little bit to build the tip?
We consider this to be normal and a pleasurable part of our lives.
There are those that would preach from the cyber pulpit that there is no sexuality in nudism. It defies logic that the removal of ones clothing instantly transforms one with a healthy libido to a sexless creature. Perhaps, they are confusing higher standards of decorum among nudists with a lack of sexuality.
While, true, that the removal of ones clothing eliminates the mystic, attraction does not magically disappear. the people we find attractive clothed ,we are likely to find attractive, nude. Those who claim there is no sexuality in nudism counter the image that most would like the general public to hold. That: We are normal people from all walks of life who find no shame in being unclothed in the presence of either sex..

The toughest of all tennants of nudism. It is not that there is no sexuality in nudism, but that nudism is not a sexual activity. Unless of course you go home after seeing a nice looking nude woman and masterbate. Then, for you, the nudist activity is foreplay, and a sexual activity. Next time you see forum threads on why there are so few women on the nude beach...think about it.
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RE: Nudists - Asexual Eunuchs?

The toughest of all tennants of nudism. It is not that there is no sexuality in nudism, but that nudism is not a sexual activity. Unless of course you go home after seeing a nice looking nude woman and masterbate. Then, for you, the nudist activity is foreplay, and a sexual activity. Next time you see forum threads on why there are so few women on the nude beach...think about it.

VERY well put !
Thank you.
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Male | Hendersonville, Tennessee United States | 55

RE: Sexual charge to nudism and nudity

To me, there is a sexual charge attached to nudity. That doesn't mean I will act on it--but on some level I will acknowledge it. It is sexually stimulatiing to look at a person--male or female--naked. Swingers clubs have that as a basic premise while the nudist camp/resort goes to an opposite extreme--almost hypocritcal. But the nudist camp wants people to discipline that sexual expression in the nudist camp. No overt display of sexuality. And for all the times I've attended, sexual expression has never been a problem. But I gotta say, the naked swingers club with pool, hot tub, patio, plazawas a whole lot of fun.


I have to agree that a sexual charge is one factor in nudity and nudism. I find that after sex my desire to be nude is reduced, not eliminated, but reduced. Something very basic inside the human brain is at that moment satiated and provides less of an impetus. I suppose its similar to the advice to go shopping after you've eaten, you buy more when hungry, less when full. The two maybe connected, after eating or sex I want to nap :-)
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#30

Male | Chesapeake, Virginia United States | 49

asexual or eunuchs

I have to agree with the subject matter experts. I have been to a strip club and seen a beautiful woman who is working on getting me turned on and then I have been to a house full of nude women who are talking and laughing and having fun with me and its not a turn on. Its in the circumstances and how we manage our selves that determines whether or not we get turned on. I also agree that if I see a woman who is pretty in clothes or without and I am attracted it makes no difference if she is clothed or not. People see us as perverts who just do not like clothes but in other countries they think we are normal. I have been to beaches all over the world and most places do not care what you wear just that you are behaving and having fun.
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Female | Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium | 59


Life is good: dream big, laugh uncontrollably and be yourself...

RE: asexual or eunuchs

Reading thread after thread about this nudism-versus-sex thing is giving me the heebie-jeebies!!!!!!
We're all born breathing,eating,working,lovemaking,cursing,sleeping,.... individuals...dressed or nude....I'm sure we all try to live our lives the best way we can..and the best way we like.....
Ona personal note.. call me weird, but I have never, EVER made a difference between the nude or non-nude circles I live in... I may have just as much fun on a 'dressed' party' as on a 'nude' one.. I also never have 'looked' at people differently when dressed or naked...
Frankly, I don't see the whole problem...it's morelike some of you/us here are determined to MAKE it a problem....
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Male | Brighton, East Sussex United Kingdom | 51

Hugz, Will

RE: Nudists - Asexual Eunuchs?

Hmm, interesting thread. I left it for ages because I did not want to throw a fox in the chicken coop too soon.
I guess you all know that i AM asexual. Oh, yes, I am 46xy karyotype male and behaviour would tell you I would make the world's worst female. But, alas, faulty Leydig and, it seems, Sertoli cells prevented development of my sexual organ, save for a 100% benign prostate.
So, sadly, I have no sexual functions or sensations whatsoever. I am permanently pre-pubescent. The upside it that, if i "go without" for a year, at least I am not almost neurotically frustrated lol.
The main downside of my asexuality is that I cannot reproduce, mitigated by a stroke of luck which saw my sister and nephews need a foster father for the past 20 myears. So I am a Dad! .....and maybe there is a God, LOL!
BTW, a eunuch is a full sexual male who has had his testicles removed, crushed or disabled. He cannot reproduce, but he still has sexual instincts in his brain. A eunuch is NOT asexual. Neither am I a eunuch, in fact I am the only male we will ever know who could never be one.
Then again, how sexless am I, even? I am still determined to find a girlfriend. Why not a boyfriend. Surely if I am asexual, I would not discern between the genders. Other than possible social heterosexual conditioning I have no answer to that one.
Getting back, another downside is that I am almost irrascibly anti-sexualization of naturism. It is a downside, because I stand alone, yet I insist it is not personal. I have studied the biology and psychology of humanity and I assure you it is not biologically natural or sustainable for the human race, or any other mammal, to be obsessed with sex and sexuality as it is today. I have a term for it: Sexual Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, to go alongside the other third millennium mass psychological disorders of material OCD, gambling OCD and image OCD, all of which have brought us to world economic and social crises.
So where are we in all this regarding naturism and sexualization.
Well, although I am probably the only biological asexual you will ever meet, we are all naturally asexual for most of our lives. This is by necessity. Nature dictates that the priorities in our lives are survival and reproduction, but probably in a ratio of something in the order of 90:10, (snatching a guess out of the air). So we are NATURALLY "sexual" only a small part of our time. Anything more is contrived through disorders brought on by weakness in the face of outside influences who stand to gain financially from our succumbment, mainly the media.
George Romero predicted this in Night of the Living Dead, where he saw radiation (the media?) making humanity mutate into sexual zombies, with only Ben (who I suppose is me, lol) and a few others hiding out in the farmhouse.
Now look at naturism in this light.
We are the least sexually obsessed community in the western world. This may be because of familiarity with the human body, whereas mainstream society hides it behind "dirty raincoats" 24/7.
So maybe Naturism is the real-life manifestation of the farmhouse in Night of the Living Dead. What is specific there is that Ben and his friends NEVER devolve into zombies at ANY time during their siege. This relates to a rebellious community that NEVER succumbs to sexual obsession.
The implication here is obvious!
Naturists, representing the farmhouse captives, maybe NEED to reject sexualization outright in order to guarantee immunity to the sickness that prevails out there in mainstream society. This does not mean they are eunuchs ....it means that they are not obsessive. Yes, we have children. Yes, we do have sex. Yes, all guys except me occasionally wake up aroused in the morning (but that can just be blood pressure or dying for a pee lol). But maybe we need to build a moat outside our natural moral castle walls which comes over as extreme.
The rule in life, in standards, in business deals, in negotiations generally, is to decide what you want and ask for more.
Therefore we want a clean-ish community in which to bring up our kids nude but safe. We are the last bastion of morality and family values in society. So we draw a line in the sand, not as cleanish, but but absolutely, God-fearingly pristine. We have to!
That is why we are extreme in our stand against over-sexualization. It is our responsility to up the drawbridge until society recognises the lesson we have to teach them. ....and to protect ourselves from their problems!
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Male | Schleswig, Schleswig-Holstein Germany | 45

RE: Nudists - Asexual Eunuchs?

in my opinion nudists are human beings as well as all the others with all their sexuallity. The problem, why this disussion exists, is, that we nudists try to tell the others, nudism has nothing to do with sex. So we try to avoid any sexual thing. But that is bullshit. We have sexual emotions and we should accept it and show it! We only have to explain the others, that we didnt become nudists for sex, we become nudists cause of this special feeling. We think of sex, have sex as much as all th others.
The bad thing is, so many guys and gaysthink they could get easily sex and almost kill good nudist-sites like TN
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"Naked I came into the world, naked will I depart" - Job.

RE: Nudists - Asexual Eunuchs?

Sadly, that is true.  Hopefully with the site upgrade, our mods and webmasters can find a bit of time to delete any undesirables and profiles which have clearly broken the terms of service.

I believe that there is a time and place for sex to take place, and the beach is not the place for it, neither is a nudist place unless it's done in the privacy of your tent/caravan/cabin with consenting people.

 
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Trying to figure this clothing optional thing out.

RE: Nudists - Asexual Eunuchs?

Hmm, interesting thread. I left it for ages because I did not want to throw a fox in the chicken coop too soon.

I guess you all know that i AM asexual. Oh, yes, I am 46xy karyotype male and behaviour would tell you I would make the world's worst female. But, alas, faulty Leydig and, it seems, Sertoli cells prevented development of my sexual organ, save for a 100% benign prostate.

So, sadly, I have no sexual functions or sensations whatsoever. I am permanently pre-pubescent. The upside it that, if i "go without" for a year, at least I am not almost neurotically frustrated lol.

The main downside of my asexuality is that I cannot reproduce, mitigated by a stroke of luck which saw my sister and nephews need a foster father for the past 20 myears. So I am a Dad! .....and maybe there is a God, LOL!

BTW, a eunuch is a full sexual male who has had his testicles removed, crushed or disabled. He cannot reproduce, but he still has sexual instincts in his brain. A eunuch is NOT asexual. Neither am I a eunuch, in fact I am the only male we will ever know who could never be one.

Then again, how sexless am I, even? I am still determined to find a girlfriend. Why not a boyfriend. Surely if I am asexual, I would not discern between the genders. Other than possible social heterosexual conditioning I have no answer to that one.

Getting back, another downside is that I am almost irrascibly anti-sexualization of naturism. It is a downside, because I stand alone, yet I insist it is not personal. I have studied the biology and psychology of humanity and I assure you it is not biologically natural or sustainable for the human race, or any other mammal, to be obsessed with sex and sexuality as it is today. I have a term for it: Sexual Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, to go alongside the other third millennium mass psychological disorders of material OCD, gambling OCD and image OCD, all of which have brought us to world economic and social crises.

So where are we in all this regarding naturism and sexualization.

Well, although I am probably the only biological asexual you will ever meet, we are all naturally asexual for most of our lives. This is by necessity. Nature dictates that the priorities in our lives are survival and reproduction, but probably in a ratio of something in the order of 90:10, (snatching a guess out of the air). So we are NATURALLY "sexual" only a small part of our time. Anything more is contrived through disorders brought on by weakness in the face of outside influences who stand to gain financially from our succumbment, mainly the media.

George Romero predicted this in Night of the Living Dead, where he saw radiation (the media?) making humanity mutate into sexual zombies, with only Ben (who I suppose is me, lol) and a few others hiding out in the farmhouse.

Now look at naturism in this light.

We are the least sexually obsessed community in the western world. This may be because of familiarity with the human body, whereas mainstream society hides it behind "dirty raincoats" 24/7.

So maybe Naturism is the real-life manifestation of the farmhouse in Night of the Living Dead. What is specific there is that Ben and his friends NEVER devolve into zombies at ANY time during their siege. This relates to a rebellious community that NEVER succumbs to sexual obsession.

The implication here is obvious!

Naturists, representing the farmhouse captives, maybe NEED to reject sexualization outright in order to guarantee immunity to the sickness that prevails out there in mainstream society. This does not mean they are eunuchs ....it means that they are not obsessive. Yes, we have children. Yes, we do have sex. Yes, all guys except me occasionally wake up aroused in the morning (but that can just be blood pressure or dying for a pee lol). But maybe we need to build a moat outside our natural moral castle walls which comes over as extreme.

The rule in life, in standards, in business deals, in negotiations generally, is to decide what you want and ask for more.

Therefore we want a clean-ish community in which to bring up our kids nude but safe. We are the last bastion of morality and family values in society. So we draw a line in the sand, not as cleanish, but but absolutely, God-fearingly pristine. We have to!

That is why we are extreme in our stand against over-sexualization. It is our responsility to up the drawbridge until society recognises the lesson we have to teach them. ....and to protect ourselves from their problems!
Nailed it Will. Sex does not need to have a public display clothed or unclothed. In a nude setting even the least sexual overture is compounded by the fact that their are no clothes. The nudist community should be a voice of reason and bastion of good behavior in a hyper sexual world. I go to camp to get away from the world and to relax not to be blasted by other peoples sexual desires.
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