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Read this all the way through before jumping down my throat. I have been to many nudist sites and have always wondered about one thing. How do others feel about young and very young children being posted on these sites. I did not come from a nudist family so I have no backgroung on which to consider. To me it seems odd that anyone would want their children posted on a site for people to see, even more so on a home page or site where it can be accessed by anyone at all. This was brought to mind this morning by a profile pic talked about in Spammers topic. I have a son and personally would not want his pic on the computer until he was of age and decided on his own that he was ok with it. Too many people out there looking at the pics, not enjoying the lifestyle. Any opinions?
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Male | Caracas, Distrito Federal Venezuela | 41

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you are ok guy Blueiron.
you got it right.
when it comes to my childrens I change my hat to a hat with a sign: " I am a fanatic lunatic , be aware!" but thats just me...
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From the image posting rules:

4. Images containing nudity can not contain anyone under the age of 18.

If you're discusing images of children in photos with everyone clothed, but posted on a nudist site, that's a whole 'nother matter. I'd have to think long and hard about it before deciding.
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Male | Akron, Ohio United States | 59

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How do others feel about young and very young children being posted on these sites.

Personally, I have no problem with it, for the most part. Having said that, let's understand that people tend to have, want, and keep photos of their children. There's nothing inherantly wrong with that.
Unfortunately, the hysteria and the laws these days make it a criminal offense to merely have possesion of a photograph of an unclothed child under the age of 13 or so, or a photo of any girl without a top under 18. As such, POSTING such photo's is just plain stupid !
If those photos are clothed, then I think there's nothing wrong with that, except that those children will grow up ( God willing ) and *may* at some point in their lives have to deal with the idea that their photo appeared on such-and-such a web site
Now, Mom, who has photo's of me a half century ago, when kids in the bathtub were generally naked and considered cute, would today be guilty of possesing child pornography. Should she choose to give me my baby pictures, then she is guilty as a perveyor of child pornography, and I become guilty of possesing child pornography for having pictures of myself !!
With such an ultra view of photos of children in any state, and just so the kids themselves wouldn't have to deal with it later in life, nany government has made it unwise at best to post photos of children anywhere, for any reason.
It's all pretty silly, but that doesn't mean one wouldn't become a registered sex offender for merely doing what was considered normal, healthy, cute, loving, and family just 15 or 20 years ago. Yes, internet introduces another variable, the "public" nature of private family photo's posted on any site whatever, but is that *really* an excuse for the extremist over-reaction to family just being family ?
We like to say that nude is not lewd. Well, children are not lewd either, but that doesn't make it safe.
Posting nude photo's of children, which may be cute, innocent, and a joy to behold, is considered under law to be a criminal offense of the most heinous kind, so rest asured it's something we can not condone these days.
The law makes everything an extreme, so reasonable isn't possible anymore.
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Male | Caracas, Distrito Federal Venezuela | 41

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Most of those sites are hosted and maintained in other countries. Different cultures. Here, we are possessed by the pedophile witch hunt hysteria that has taken over common sense and reason.
If we had kids, and if it wouldn't cast us into the pit of social damnation, we'd probably show ourselves as a complete family if the site rules allowed it.

Dear rabbit.
If I may , from past experience , i disagree!
We are not obsessed, we are carful and protective.
When I first started to look for my way into social nudism, I didnt know of any club here in Venezuela , so to be able to start interacting with the outside world I went to yahoo chat rooms.
I have created a sincere and decent profile in yahoo just as here only didnt have any outdoors pics to share so I had what any beginner had , home pics.
Since I was sincere I was innocent enough to assume the rest are too.
So I started chatting and web camming , made some nice real nudist friends and in a month or so , felt comfortable enough to let my daughters come to the web cam ( clothed)
The attack of pervs I had in that moment, some came from real nudists I have considered already as virtual friends (by the way , they all started nice , took the about 5 to 10 min to show there faces , started with nice comments like pretty eyes or such)
I cant even repeat the words they used.
I turned off the cam , logged out and it took me about a month to gain the strength to log in again.
After another month or too , just lost hope, erased my profile and never came back.
So , in my book , its not being obsessed.
Its being realistic.
Tell you the truth?
Even when in the no landed club we go , every time there is a new integrant I dont know yet , I sleep with one eye opened
Regards.
Bman
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Rabbit is correct.
There is absolutely an air of "pedophile witch hunt hysteria" in the US of A. It FAR overshadows any "common sense and reason" as may exist, and certainly did exist a few years ago.
It appears Bman is making valid arguments for common sense and reason, which no one will disagree with. It is the responsibility of parents to protect their young. Hopefully, we do.
There are many Russian web sites that do show nudist clubs as they are, including children in a safe, sane, family atmosphere. In this country, such would likely land one in prison for a very long time.
None of this has to do with *real* predators.
Bman is concerned with the real predators, as are we all. ( well, all of us with half a brain cell )
Bman rightfully is concerned for the freaks that caused him grief, but I fail to see any "proper" concern when a parent getting a photo of their own child in a bathtub developed at Wal-Mart and having to face years in prison as a pedophile child pornographer.
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I realized after reading some responses that I did not specify in my original post. I wondered how many people felt comfortable with their children being nude on a website. I would be afraid of who was looking at my child and where the picture of my child was being downloaded and reposted to. But again, I did not grow up in the nudist way of life so I know I cannot have a grasp of both points of view. That being said, as far as my owm pic being reposted somewhere, I figure if you like looking at me naked enough to post it somewhere you may have more problems than I do.
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I realized after reading some responses that I did not specify in my original post. I wondered how many people felt comfortable with their children being nude on a website. I would be afraid of who was looking at my child and where the picture of my child was being downloaded and reposted to. But again, I did not grow up in the nudist way of life so I know I cannot have a grasp of both points of view. That being said, as far as my owm pic being reposted somewhere, I figure if you like looking at me naked enough to post it somewhere you may have more problems than I do.


As a mother and step-mother, I would ABSOLUTELY NOT post nude pics of my children ANYWHERE on the internet. That is a choice only they can make when they become adults. And I am absolutely disgusted by anyone who would post pictures of a nude child as pics of themself.

Jen
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Male | Akron, Ohio United States | 59

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I wondered how many people felt comfortable with their children being nude on a website.


With that clarification in mine, not just no, but H377 NO !
There are FAR to many who would use them for nefarious purposes, so making them fodder for the sick minds can in itself be considered some form of child abuse, IMHO.

As a mother and step-mother, I would ABSOLUTELY NOT post nude pics of my children ANYWHERE on the internet. That is a choice only they can make when they become adults. And I am absolutely disgusted by anyone who would post pictures of a nude child as pics of themself.

Jen

It seems we are in full agreement.
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Blueiron35 and others.
It seems that we are all in agreement here. Just stating things different ways. I had this response prepared prior to viewing the other responses.
No one will ever deny that our children and in my case, grandchildren, need protection in this age of electronic predators. However, as happens so often, the pendulum may have swung too far. We now, hear of cases where parents are arrested for photographing their infants in the bathtub. The very cute ad for suntan lotion in which the puppy is pulling on the swimsuit, exposing the babys bare butt no longer appears. Has the ad agency been arrested on child porn charges?
In the early 1970s, a more innocent age, in some ways, nudist clubs were more family oriented. The nudist magazines on the market featured stories and photographs of entire families engaged in nudist activities. They had limited distribution, published for nudists and to educate the public on nudism. Pictures taken of club activities for club album were taken without regard to the age of the subjects. ( with permission, of course)
On a personal note: It was in that time frame that I was visiting with friends at the club when their two daughters returned from play. The oldest was six or seven at the time. They were nude and apparently had found a mud puddle to play in. They were covered with mud from head to toe. I took their picture, from the waist up. It turned out to be cute beyond belief. I presented the picture to my friends, the parents, and it may still hold a fond place in their album to this day, though at least one of the girls has grandchildren of her own.
Would I dare to take that picture, today. No way!
Do I recommend that anyone put pictures of children, clothed or unclothed on the internet? No way!
The age of innocence has been lost to us and we are unlikely to see its return.
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Male | Caracas, Distrito Federal Venezuela | 41

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Though I agree with almost all of what said her about going to far with the hysteria , I do have to add.
I think the difference between yesterday ( well , 1970) and today is very simple.
Today we are aware!
I dont think that predators are new; I just think that now we have fox news to let us know about them!( yes people, kill me later and by the way : o'reilly rulls!)
Therefore we lost our innocence and became over protective.
I remember being in our textile club and one of the moms tells her 6 years old girl ( mine was the same age) not to dress there but go to the dressing room.
I asked her why? She answered you may never know and she needs to learn to respect her body!
I should mention: it is a closed private members only club, not a public pool or such.
I was shocked.
I totally agree that it was taken too far and I am pretty sure that if the conservative would have their way we nudists would be outlawed.( actually , in some countries , WE ARE!)
Thing is, its hard to draw the line.
How do we know to difference from a sex offender who takes pictures of little boys and an artistic photographer? ( by the way , how come Ann Geddes is free yet? OFF WITH HER HEAD! lol )
Better yet , how can we avoid the same innocent picture being later used for other purpose?
Its the same thin line that we dont let cross here about sexuality!
Once you open the door, pretty hard to tell who gets in.( case in point recent events on TN forum)
I somewhere red about a website you have in the USA to see what sex offenders live in your neighborhood , the writer ( or tv show dont remember) said that there are so many red dots you cant see your house. ( dont know if true or not)
I am pretty sure that I relatively sleep well at night just thanks for ignorance! ( no such website here , barley have a police and if you find one , hell probably take your money)
My point and as it was well put by blueiron , if any perv feel the need to use my pic , although it will bother me fine! , but if a ridiculously narrow-minded law will save one pure soul from being abused, know what? I am fine with it, band away!
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There have always been perverts and pedophiles. Howerver, prior to the Internet, they were limited to magazines, 8 mm film strips and photos, and they had to use snail mail to distribute their filthy wares. With the arrival of personal computers, digital imaging and the Internet, there came a sea change in kiddie porn. The scumbags adopted them in a heartbeat.

The cameras allowed them to take the vilest of photos with no concern whatever about getting film developed. The computers allowed them to process and store their demonic images by the thousands. And the Internet provided a virtually instantaneous medium for worldwide distribution of their filth.

The Web has been a blessing to humanity ... and a curse. One wonders how many loving parents incautiously posted photos of their kids on personal websites, never knowing that perverts copied them for thoroughly despicable purposes.

I agree fully that the campaign against child pornography has gone to sometimes ridiculous extremes. However, the production of child pornography has also gone to extremes. And with software such as Photoshop, even the most innocent of photos can become nightmarish. Take a child's photo, digitally stip off their clothes (quite simple with swimsuit pics), and layer them into already disgusting images, and pure innocence becomes hellish evil.

Unfortunately, for every POS that is arrested for possessing or distributing kid porn, there are hundreds who continue the trade. The campaign to rid the world of them must continue, even if it at times goes a bit over the top.
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I somewhere red about a website you have in the USA to see what sex offenders live in your neighborhood , the writer ( or tv show don’t remember) said that there are so many red dots you cant see your house. ( don’t know if true or not…)

Depending on where you live, true !! ( several sites, in fact )
Also true that some of them are 15 year old kids "guilty"of so-called sexting, and 18 year old boys guilty of nothing more than having a 16 year old girl friend, and still more gulity only of having a vindictive ex who has learned to use the system as a weapon. Some of the dots are the kind of predator who has no reason to live, and the true targets of the intent, but when hysteria replaces reason, and "zero tolerance" replaces judgement, we have an untenable and near useless situation.
In time, it will correct, but for now extreme caution is indicated.
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Male | Somerville, Texas United States | 58

Quoting from Genesis, "They were nude but they were not ashamed." Furthermore, because God created it, "The human body can remain nude and uncovered and preserve its splendor and its beauty."
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My answer is definatly no on posting of nude pics of under age. It is not just because of the fact that it is illegal and against the site rules here. Years ago, I had clothed pics of my son and I together on my AOL profile. I was going to the nudist chat rooms on AOL and I started getting sexually suggustive messages from men because of that. I reported them for abuse and removed those pics. If I got messages like that from a non nude profile pic, can you imagine what a nude pic would do?
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