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Male | Western, New York United States | 45

under age newbies

Why does TH allow under aged people come into this group. I think there should be an age limit for joining like at least 21 yrs old . Does anyone know if there is such an age limit here?
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Male | Akron, Ohio United States | 60

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There is. I believe it's 18.
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Male | Leeds, West Yorkshire United Kingdom | 62

RE: under age newbies

I guess the problem here is that the age of majority varies from country to country.  While 21 is considered to be adult in the US, here in the UK we get there at 18 while in Japan it's 20.  With the internet being an international medium. we have to accept that some leeway is required. Maybe the criterion to cling to is whether or not a person behaves in a responsible, adult manner, but let's face it, there are plenty of over-21s on here with a very juvenile attitude. If it helps, consider how many people under 21 are serving in Afghanistan and Iraq at the moment and ask yourself if they should be welcome here.  Personally, I'm more comfortable hanging out with people around my own age, but that doesn't mean I want to deny younger people access - so long as they don't make too much noise and keep their rooms tidy.
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Male | Montgomery, New York United States | 57

RE: under age newbies

That's what I understand as well cold...18 minimum...no photo ID required though...
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Male | The Ghetto, Noord-Holland Netherlands | 38

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I was just going to say, you can put any age in ur profile. So there might be a number of memebers here who are under the agelimit. I guess this limit has been set to avoid any legal issues. Then again not a lot of nudist sites are available to the younger crowd. Have come across a thread posted by a member who wasn't 18 yet but desperatly wanted to talk to people about nudism and the trouble it was giving at home. Still, setting age bounderies is a good thing I think.
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Male | Bournemouth, Dorset United Kingdom | 52

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If we are 'true nudists' we shouldn't really care how old people are to access this site as long as they are also 'true nudists'. I would prefer to know the real age of someone rather than have them lie in order to gain access. The legal issue is usually to do with where the server is located - I assume that it is in the US and must comply with US (or even State) law. Perhaps 'youger people' should have their nude profile images hidden until they are age verified.
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Male | Miami, Florida United States | 37

I will call you out if you post anything inappropriate in the form of words, photos, or anything else.   Rich

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I find this thread amusing.  Are we ashamed to show our bodies to the younger generation?  Would we not raise our own children as nudists?  I think that the fact that younger people are coming here shows that they are looking for help and answers.  In many cases, I do not believe they are wanting to look at photos.  If they say their 18, answer their questions.  If they say they are younger and you don't feel comfortable speaking with them, then just politely decline for that reason. As a note, the age of majority in the USA is 18; there just happens to be an additional three years before one is able to drink.
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Male | Sydney, Nsw Australia | 55

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underage nudists would be ok as long as they have a profile photo with at least one of thei parents in it to show their approval, lots of families are nudists and its ok to do so isn't what this site promotes? lets keep in mind that this site is not meant to be sexual in any way and lets try and keep it that way too!!!
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Couple | In A Valley In, Connecticut United States | 55 & 53

Have you signed? The Nudist Bill of Rights       

RE: underage nudists

To be a member of this site one MUST be 18. There are several legitimate and wholesome nudist sites that are geared specifically for teens.  If you run across ANY underage profiles you can direct them to these sites (and notify site admin via the flagging system that the profile is underage): Young Adults for Nude Recreation  (18-35) Young Naturist Association International (16-35) Naturist-Christians.org (Has a forum specifically for 13-19 year olds and one for 16-25 year olds) I am sure there are other legitimate and wholesome nudist sites geared specifically for teens. These are the ones that I was made aware of and researched while looking for sites to recommend to a 16 year old several months ago who has since been removed from this site. Jen
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Male | Kingston, Ontario Canada | 78

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RE: underage nudists

To be a member of this site one MUST be 18. There are several legitimate and wholesome nudist sites that are geared specifically for teens.  If you run across ANY underage profiles you can direct them to these sites (and notify site admin via the flagging system that the profile is underage): Young Adults for Nude Recreation  (18-35)
  
Young Naturist Association International (16-35) Naturist-Christians.org (Has a forum specifically for 13-19 year olds and one for 16-25 year olds)
  I fully agree with Jen. Redirecting young people to an appropriate site is much more effective than simply getting rid of them.  Chances are that when they do reach age of majority they may return to TN as knowledgeable and contributing members of this site.  We frequently wonder why there aren't more young people getting involved and I feel that treating them respectfully is integral to their participation.
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Doing what I can to positively promote nudism. http://www.travelites.info

RE: underage nudists

To be a member of this site one MUST be 18. There are several legitimate and wholesome nudist sites that are geared specifically for teens.  If you run across ANY underage profiles you can direct them to these sites (and notify site admin via the flagging system that the profile is underage): Young Adults for Nude Recreation  (18-35) Young Naturist Association International (16-35) Naturist-Christians.org (Has a forum specifically for 13-19 year olds and one for 16-25 year olds) I am sure there are other legitimate and wholesome nudist sites geared specifically for teens. These are the ones that I was made aware of and researched while looking for sites to recommend to a 16 year old sevefal months ago who has been removed from this site. Jen
      Jen, Netnude.com also has a younger area set aside as I belive clothesfree.com does.
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Have you signed? The Nudist Bill of Rights       

RE: underage nudists

To be a member of this site one MUST be 18. There are several legitimate and wholesome nudist sites that are geared specifically for teens.  If you run across ANY underage profiles you can direct them to these sites (and notify site admin via the flagging system that the profile is underage): Young Adults for Nude Recreation  (18-35) Young Naturist Association International (16-35) Naturist-Christians.org (Has a forum specifically for 13-19 year olds and one for 16-25 year olds) I am sure there are other legitimate and wholesome nudist sites geared specifically for teens. These are the ones that I was made aware of and researched while looking for sites to recommend to a 16 year old sevefal months ago who has been removed from this site. Jen
       Jen, Netnude.com also has a younger area set aside as I belive clothesfree.com does.
That's great, Cheri!  Thank you.  I knew you'd have something good to add! Jen
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Female | Somewhere, Washington United States | 28

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Well when skimming over the ToS upon joining, I have to agree and say that it's 18.  I believe I've come across a website before that was specifically for teen nudists too.
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The majority is 18 in the US the sexual majority is usually 16 in the US
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Have you signed? The Nudist Bill of Rights       

RE: underage nudists

To be a member of this site one MUST be 18. There are several legitimate and wholesome nudist sites that are geared specifically for teens.  If you run across ANY underage profiles you can direct them to these sites (and notify site admin via the flagging system that the profile is underage): Young Adults for Nude Recreation  (18-35) Young Naturist Association International (16-35) Naturist-Christians.org (Has a forum specifically for 13-19 year olds and one for 16-25 year olds) I am sure there are other legitimate and wholesome nudist sites geared specifically for teens. These are the ones that I was made aware of and researched while looking for sites to recommend to a 16 year old several months ago who has been removed from this site. Jen
          Jen, Netnude.com also has a younger area set aside as I belive clothesfree.com does.
Guys, of all people you both know you're not supposed to be advertising other websites on here.  Even if it's for nudists who aren't allowed on here.
  I'm going to disagree with you on this, Rabbit.  I am not advertising nor am I promoting these other websites.  They are listed for informational purposes only as ones that allow nudists under the age of 18.  They in no way are competing with TN as they are not social networking sites.  Two are forum board only.  One is purely informational.     The actual rules is: - Topics promoting Other websites or deemed SPAM will be deleted.   The topic of this thread is whether there is an age limit on this site.   My response is that yes there is and that underage nudists on this site should be and have been directed to sites where they are allowed.  I am not promoting these sites nor am I flooding (or spamming) the forum with them.  It is no different than providing links to the breast cancer website, the haitian/australian/italy disaster relief organization links or any of the other informational links that we all post on here.  But just to be sure that I am not misinterpreting this I will email TT1 and ask him if it is in violation of the forum/group postings and gladly remove them if they are.   Jen 
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Male | Miami, Florida United States | 37

I will call you out if you post anything inappropriate in the form of words, photos, or anything else.   Rich

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The majority is 18 in the US the sexual majority is usually 16 in the US
  Um...no, this is wrong.  There is an implied three year rule when it comes to a person's sex life in that if there is a 16 y/o having relations with someone older, then it is seen as ok if the person they are in a relationship is not over the age of 19 y/o.  Technically, though, if the parents of the younger party wanted to be sticklers for the law, then they can persuade the legal system to try and indict with statutory rape.  This is usually not a good idea since the courts will throw it out if both of the parties are in highschool or have known each other through highschool.  Unfortunately, there have been some cases where fairly vocal parents of the victim have won on the statutory rape charges.
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Male | Kingston, Ontario Canada | 78

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Quote ***I'm going to disagree with you on this, Rabbit.  I am not advertising nor am I promoting these other websites.  They are listed for informational purposes only as ones that allow nudists under the age of 18.  They in no way are competing with TN as they are not social networking sites.  Two are forum board only.  One is purely informational.   The actual rules is: - Topics promoting Other websites or deemed SPAM will be deleted.   The topic of this thread is whether there is an age limit on this site.   My response is that yes there is and that underage nudists on this site should be and have been directed to sites where they are allowed.  I am not promoting these sites nor am I flooding (or spamming) the forum with them.  It is no different than providing links to the breast cancer website, the haitian/australian/italy disaster relief organization links or any of the other informational links that we all post on here.  But just to be sure that I am not misinterpreting this I will email TT1 and ask him if it is in violation of the forum/group postings and gladly remove them if they are.   Jen ***unquote I have to agree with Jen here.  Redirection of an underage person who is not eligible to join this site anyway is not in my opinion promotion of an external site but rather a useful tool and as she says informational.   As these people cannot legally join TN I do not feel that there is any competition with TN.  I have seen many posts which quite openly mention other sites (without giving a link) which are considered to be correct in posts and from which anyone can google to find the site.
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Male | The Real Boonies, Georgia United States | 51

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RE: underage nudists

This may seem self-evident to others, but I guess not so much to me.  If a person states that they're 18 (or over), how do you determine that they're not, based just on a small selection of profile photos?  I'm asking this because there was a case recently where a man was arrested coming through customs with some DVD's that the customs officials claimed were child pornography.  This man spent two years in jail awaiting trial, and the government's whole case was based on two things:  the word of the customs person that the girl in the DVD's had to be a minor, and the testimony of a pediatrician who viewed the DVD and swore that the actress was under 18, based on her less-than-adult-looking phisical attributes. When the case finally came to trial, the defense actually produced the actress, and her birth certificate, which proved that she was 19 when the movies were filmed.  The defendant was freed, having lost two years of his life and endured a monumentally life-changing trauma.  This begs the question:  If a person joins True Nudists, and swears that they're 18, how would you judge them to be underage?  I agree that the rules of the site are to be obeyed if you want to be a member, and that the site states people under 18 are not allowed to join.  But how would you make that determination?
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Male | Taft, United States | 68

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Snugglebunny (Jen), I'm very happy to say that I totally agree with everything you have said on this post. I don't think this is the first time I've agreed with you, just the first since our todo the other day. Truce, friends? John
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Male | Western, New York United States | 45

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sorry that I haven't been back to check this post sooner. I see some of you got it and other didn't. I personally don't like the underaged people here some one might get in trouble .I wish I could have raised my family as nudists because I think we should all be proud of our bodies and feel free to dress or not .
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The majority is 18 in the US the sexual majority is usually 16 in the US
    Um...no, this is wrong.  There is an implied "three year" rule when it comes to a person's sex life in that if there is a 16 y/o having relations with someone older, then it is seen as ok if the person they are in a relationship is not over the age of 19 y/o.  Technically, though, if the parents of the younger party wanted to be sticklers for the law, then they can persuade the legal system to try and indict with statutory rape.  This is usually not a good idea since the courts will throw it out if both of the parties are in highschool or have known each other through highschool.  Unfortunately, there have been some cases where fairly vocal parents of the victim have won on the statutory rape charges.
The laws vary by state in the US, having worked in law enforcement I know the above is not true in Texas. Concerning the original post, the minimum  age to be member here is 18 for reasons nudeinma stated. 
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Male | The Real Boonies, Georgia United States | 51

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This may seem self-evident to others, but I guess not so much to me.  If a person states that they're 18 (or over), how do you determine that they're not, based just on a small selection of profile photos?
  There is no way to tell. We have only the person's word for it. This is one major reason for certification. The person must provide photos that would make an underage individual quite obvious, unless he/she talked an adult into posing for them, which is improbable.
Uh huh... not to pick nits, but quite obvious how?
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Male | Riverview, Florida United States | 37

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. And if you're unable to discern that a kid is in the mid-teens, it's fortunate that your judgment is not required.
If your talking about 13-15yr olds then I would agree as 95% of them look under 18.  At or around age 16 though a majority of the children nowadays look 18 or older.  In FL this is especially true given our weather and beaches/waterparks.  Clothes hide alot, swimsuits show almost everything while bringing attention to specific areas.  Then of course there are those people that are over 18 that look too young to drive....think of Michael J. Fox, he would have been 30 before he looked 18. As for the original topic, 18 is what is required to avoid legal trouble.....not that it is technically illegal but rather to avoid legal drama.  Similar to those states that have laws that technically allow public nudity as long as there is no lewd or obscene act.  In these states if you do go out in public naked you can be arrested and jailed.  You may eventually win in court because you were technically not breaking the law but you will have more trouble than it's worth because of the nudiephobic hypocrites.
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Couple | In A Valley In, Connecticut United States | 55 & 53

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Uh huh... not to pick nits, but "quite obvious" how?
  Discerning that a kid is in the mid-teens does not require acute observational faculties.
  I've got to disagree with you there.  At age 13 one of my best friends was often mistaken for being 18 or 19.  At age 28, I was directed by a professional photographer to the kids group (none of the kids were over the age of 15) while taking pictures for our Karate class brochure.  It wasn't until my pre-teen son stepped up and said That's my mom did the photographer agree to let me stay with the adults for the pictures.  Needless to say I didn't make it into any of the photos in the brochure for the adult class.  To top it off, my hairdresser just that day had given me a more mature, sophisticated hair cut and style because I was having a difficult time being taken seriously at business meetings.  Not only did I have to prove myself as a woman in a male dominated board room, I had to prove that I was an adult because my looks were so deceiving.   lol, maybe as a test I'll start a profile using only pics of me when in my late 20's, early 30's - list it as 18 and see how many flags I get for being underage.   Really though, the only underage profiles that I've ever succesfully reported to TT1 were A) Listing themselves as 17, B) Using photo's blatantly taken from the internet (usually stock photos or copied from russian porn sites that feature children) and/or C) admitted to me in a message that they were 16 (our friend from a few months ago who became active on the forum)   Jen
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Male | The Real Boonies, Georgia United States | 51

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Uh huh... not to pick nits, but "quite obvious" how?
   Discerning that a kid is in the mid-teens does not require acute observational faculties.
  I've got to disagree with you there.  At age 13 one of my best friends was often mistaken for being 18 or 19.  At age 28, I was directed by a professional photographer to the "kids" group (none of the kids were over the age of 15) while taking pictures for our Karate class brochure.  It wasn't until my pre-teen son stepped up and said "That's my mom" did the photographer agree to let me stay with the "adults" for the pictures.  Needless to say I didn't make it into any of the photos in the brochure for the adult class.  To top it off, my hairdresser just that day had given me a more "mature, sophisticated" hair cut and style because I was having a difficult time being taken seriously at business meetings.  Not only did I have to "prove" myself as a woman in a male dominated board room, I had to "prove" that I was an adult because my looks were so deceiving.   lol, maybe as a test I'll start a profile using only pics of me when in my late 20's, early 30's - list it as 18 and see how many flags I get for being underage.   Really though, the only underage profiles that I've ever succesfully reported to TT1 were A) Listing themselves as 17, B) Using photo's blatantly taken from the internet (usually stock photos or copied from russian porn sites that feature children) and/or C) admitted to me in a message that they were 16 (our friend from a few months ago who became active on the forum)   Jen
Well, NudeInMA, I may not have the acute observational faculties of a man of your obvious wisdom and experience, but I suppose Jen just made my point.  For the record, I have a teen-age daughter, and while SHE looks underage, she has friends that have a much more questionable appearance. Not only that, but it seems like the older I get, the younger everyone else looks... This is TT's site, and he can do with it whatever he wants.  I think offering a teens only area would be a fantastic addition, but lacking that, I think at least reffering any underage surfers to appropriate venues would be the least we can do as responsible nudists.  I'd certainly hate to lose any valid members because someone thought he observed that they were underage...
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