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The man and his wife were both naked, yet they felt no shame. -- Genesis 2:25

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Although the Bible plainly states that there was no shame of nudity before the fall (Gen, 2:25), many Christians say that nudity is now wrong because things changed after the fall. I've heard people say "the Bible says that Adam and Eve became ashamed of nudity after they sinned, and that's enough proof that we are supposed to be ashamed of nudity for me!" These same people do not object to nudity if it is private between husband and wife, saying that is the one context in which it is allowed, YET that is exactly the context that Adam and Eve where in when they became ashamed! Since they felt no shame when they where in a right relationship with God and became ashamed only AFTER they sinned, shouldn't this be proof that it's body shame and not nudity which is wrong?
Yes indeed, everything did change after Adam and Eve sinned; everything that was right was distorted due to sin and Satan's deception. If we follow the logic that we should be ashamed of nudity - BECAUSE of sin, than not only should we NOT strive to raise above body shame and accept nudity without shame as it was before the fall, we should also NOT strive for peace between men - because of sin, we should NOT try to cure or end diseases - because of sin, we should NOT try to ease the pain of child birth - because of sin, we should not try to better our situation in life - because of sin, we should NOT try to make the ground easier to till and produce better crops - because of sin, we should NOT try to end injustice - because of sin, I could go on and on.
If we accepted this logic we wouldn't even be able to accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior - because apparently we are to be defeated by and subject to sin! But Jesus came and died because of sin, to restore us to a right relationship with God and free us from sin. God never intended that we be defeated by sin and accept the wrong which resulted because of the fall as right! (Including shame over what God created and proclaimed to be very good.) In fact He clearly intended that we overcome and obtain victory over sin (and the results of Satan's deception) and he provided the means for us to do that through our new life as Christians in Jesus Christ.
I believe that Satan works hardest to deceive God's children about things that are important, not inconsequential things. What effect does shame have on us? It is the source of low self-esteem. It is central to the emergence of alienation, loneliness, inferiority, and perfectionism. Depression, paranoia, sexual addiction and abuse all significantly involve shame. Pastor Ted Roberts (author of "Pure Desire") says: "Shame is a feeling of deep degradation that convinces me there is something fundamentally wrong with me...and that is a killer."
What does the Bible say about our bodies?
In Gen 1:31 the Bible says: "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good."
Isa 5:20 says: Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.
Psalm 8:4,5 says: "What is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him? You made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor."
Psalm 92:4,5 says: "How great are your deeds O Lord: I sing for joy at the works of your hand. How great are your works, O Lord, how profound your thoughts!"
Psalm 139:14 says: "I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.
Isaiah 29:16 says: "You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay! Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, "He did not make me"? Can the pot say of the potter, "He knows nothing"?
Isaiah 45:9-12 says: "Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker, to him who is but a potsherd among the potsherds on the ground. Does the clay say to the potter, "What are you Making?' Does your work say, "He has no hands"? Woe to him who says to his father, "what have you begotten?' or to his mother, What have you brought to birth?' "This is what the Lord says - the Holy One of Israel, and its Maker: Concerning things to come, do you question me about my children, or give orders about the work of my hands? It is I who made the Earth and created mankind upon it."
1 Tim. 4:4 says: "For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,"
Titus 1:15,16 says: To those that are pure, all things are pure, but to those who are full of sin and do not believe, nothing is pure. Both their minds and their consciences have been ruined. They say they know God, but their actions show they do not accept Him. They are hateful people, they refuse to obey, and they are useless for doing anything good.
Again, I could go on, YET many Christians who believe we should obtain victory over sin and strive to overcome things like hatred, injustice, sickness, weeds, and every other result of the fall and Satan's deception believe that nudity (God's creation as He made it) is wrong, causes lust, and that shame is right! It seems to me that this is one of Satan's most successful deceptions, one that not only causes us to struggle far more with lust but also causes us to feel alienated from ourselves, others, and God!
God did not create our bodies to be ashamed of or to cause us to lust and fall into sin if we see them without clothes! In Mark 7:14-15 Jesus said: "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' " In verses 20-23 He continues "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.' " Yet many Christians believe that it is what's outside (seeing nudity) rather than what's in side (our evil or lewd thoughts of nudity) that causes lust. That idea is part of Satan's deception and one that greatly increases lustful temptation by making nudity taboo, a tease, and forbidden rather than accepted without shame.
1st. Corinthians 2:16 says that Christians have the mind of Christ, would Jesus' mind regard the human body (which He created and proclaimed to be very good) as something obscene, indecent, lewd, and shameful which causes lust? NO! and neither should Christians! If we were truly living in Christ we wouldn't regard the human body in anyway different than God does, and God clearly regards it as good and wonderful without shame.
As a popular praise song says we should be trading our shame for the joy of the Lord.
"I'm trading my sorrows I'm trading my shame I'm laying them down For the joy of the Lord."
- from the song "Trading My Sorrows"
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If we were meant to run around naked, we'd be born that way. Cool

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Well, I could care less what the authors of the bible have to say about shame and nudity, but if there is an entity that fits the descriptions of "God", it is without desire and really doesn't care so much what we do as everything it created is good and eventually we all return.
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Great article! It is one of many well-written articles out there from a Christian Naturist perspective regarding nudity/nudism. There is a lot the Bible has to say (bywhat the Bible says or actually doesn't say) about nudity/nudismthat is counter-culture to our secular & Christian culture. Isn't it interesting that amongBOTH our secular culture and Christian culture people live in shame with a very warped, twisted view ofnudity. Why is it that nudity is always associated with sex, with shame, with taboo, with shock, with something bad, dirty, wrong, lustful, sinful, etc? That's what I always believed for most of my life, until I read what the Bible says (or doesn't say) about nudity/nudism and saw from a Christian Naturist perspective how nudism can be experienced in a nonsexual, unashamed, andGod-honoring way that is beneficial in multiple ways to the person who practices it. Thank you for posting an article such as this. I would appreciate more postings of articles such as this. There are some of us Christian naturists out here on TN, like myself,who enjoy and appreciate a good Biblical & rational discussion on the topic of naturism/nudism. Laughing
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The man and his wife were both naked, yet they felt no shame. -- Genesis 2:25

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Naturism in Heaven



Naturism may be the earthy example to a heavenly future; in fact, I believe that it is imminent. Consider the truth that God did not give Adam and Eve clothing until after He placed thorns and thistles in the ground. Note that at no time did God condemn Adam and Eve being naked; He gave them coats of skin, so the earth would not hurt their physical bodies while working the ground to get something to eat.

When God created man, he created him naked; this is because the body can perform its functions the best when we are naked. Symbolically, humans were without sin when God created them and they remained without sin until chapter 3 of Genesis. When God creates for us a new heaven and a new earth, there will be no more curse (Rev 22:3). God did not condemn Adam and Eve for being naked; they condemned themselves and this was the reason for the excuse that Adam gave God when asked where he was (Gen 3:11). If the reason that God gave us clothes was to deal with the curse, then when the curse is wiped away, we will no longer have a need for clothing.

Modesty and shame are the reasons why many people may believe that we will need clothes in heaven. People who believe this often point to the scripture 1 Timothy 2:9 as support for their belief. They interpret this scripture to mean that Paul says we should appear modest and by extension we cannot show all parts of our God-created bodies to the world. However, in all actuality by definition, to be modest is to be showy or boastful. Modesty has to do with behavior, actions and the intent behind those actions, not with clothing. In context this verse deals with places of worship, which Paul explicitly says in verse 8. In every place of worship, I want men to pray with holy hands lifted up to God, free from anger and controversy (1 Tim 2:8, NLTSE).

Some people may contend that both Aaron and others at that time had to wear certain garments so that their nakedness would be not visible. The problem with that approach is, in context, those scriptures are speaking about worship. Both examples used dealt with worship and I agree with Nathan that in this passage, Paul was focusing more on people overdressing not under-dressing because people in that time were more comfortable being naked. This may be due to the technology of that era since people did not have the ability to mass-produce clothing as we do today. To avoid damage to their clothes they took their clothes off when they worked just as Peter did (John 21:7) and the gardeners of that time (Matt 24:18). So we should understand that people wanted to experience nudity back then just as others want to experience nudity in certain circumstances today in certain European beaches and unofficial clothing optional beaches in the US.

Few people actually think about nudity in Heaven or on the New Earth. Since we will not have any shame in Heaven and if we are to return to Eden (as seen in many uses of the phrase) we can be assured that we will have the choice to go without clothing because we know that our bodies perform the best as God created them.

After reading a book called Heaven by Randy Alcorn, John is depicting people as wearing garments to which they were accustomed on earth, which leads me to believe that this is the way our after life will be. Now if we were accustomed to nudity on earth and being naked was not condemned during the fall, then we should be expected to be naked on the new Earth at least some of the time. The Bible states in several places that we will have redeemed bodies (2 Cor 5:3 and Rom 8:23); this means that we will have new bodies on the redeemed earth and will no longer have a need for clothing.

The initial purpose of clothing was to protect us from the thorn and thistle that God placed in the ground. After the Noahs flood, the purpose of clothing, I believe, was extended to protect us from our environment, because we would have to deal with hazardous weather conditions. For an excellent resource on the impact of Noahs flood and how it shaped our world read The Biblical Basis for Modern Science by Henry M. Morris. In conclusion, without the curses of Genesis 3 or weather conditions from which we will need to protect ourselves, there really will be no need for clothing; although we could wear them if we so desired.

Scripture References:

Genesis 3; Revelations 22:3; Genesis 3:11; I Timothy 2:8-9; John 21:7; Matthew 24:18; II Corinthians 5:3;
Romans 8:23
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A Biblical View of the Body



The Bible tells us about the origins of our world and why it is the way that we see it today. In the first 2 chapters, we read that God created the world and then called everything that He created very good. We know that Adam and Eve were nude at this point and that it was Gods intention for them to be nude. God gave them 1 prohibition: Do not eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; He told them the results of eating of the fruit as well: they would die.

In chapter 3, the Father of lies convinces Adam and Eve that God was wrong and so they violate the prohibition. They notice they were nude and so they clothe themselves. God wants to fellowship and Adam is hiding because he was afraid because he was naked.







God did not clothe them at that point, verse 9; God clothes them after he curses the ground, Adams punishment, v.18; God does that for their physical protection from The Curse. With that as background, simple nudity is mostly neutral, stated as a observation without judgement.




Although simple nudity has been presented in a positive light, with Saul  and Isaiah, simple nudity has never been presented in a negative light; when it is cast in a negative light, another sin like homosexuality (Noah, Gen 9) or incest (Lot, Gen 19) or lust (David, 2 Sam 11) is present. The Bible may not present any specific examples of the simple nudity that we practice, but we know that evil thoughts come from our minds, not external sources (Mark 7:21-3) and that God created our bodies to be received with thanksgiving (1 Tim 4:4)

The crucial question about this lifestyle is did Gods view of His creation change at the fall?  If it did, then there is a moral reason for clothing. If it did not, then the reason for wearing clothing is only to protect us from getting hurt, in many cases by the environment. God cant tempt us (James 1:12-15) and He commanded Isaiah to go naked (Isa 20:2); so that means that being naked is not a sin. So that means that we have the liberty in Christ to be nude.

Genesis 1-2

Genesis 3:9

Genesis 3:18

Genesis 9

Genesis 19

II Samuel 11

Mark 7:21-23

I Timothy 4:4

James 1:12-15

Isaiah 20:2
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Christian and Nudist



This is not exactly a confession in the traditional sense, since I believe what I have to tell is not a sin, although it is controversial.  I am a nudist.  I have not engaged in unlawful sex, nor have I suddenly become perverted in my desires.  I do this because it is neither sexual nor sinful and there are benefits to be gained.

Some years ago, I was surfing the Web and stumbled upon a Christian nudist web site.  I was intrigued enough to explore it and read their statement of faith, and was surprised to find that in nearly every particular it matched orthodox Christianity.  The one exception was the last section, a brief statement that they believed the naked human being was good and nudity was not forbidden in the Bible.

Well, I have long believed in studying the Bible for myself rather than blindly accepting the doctrines of any one denomination.  So I searched the Scriptures, and was surprised to find what the Bible said about nakedness, or rather, what it didn't say.











I restudied Genesis 2 and 3.  Of course, Adam and Eve were creaked naked and unashamed in the Garden; but it is usually assumed that God somehow changed His mind after our father and mother ate the Fruit.  But the text doesnt support that assumption.  When Adam said, trying to justify himself, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, God replied, Who told thee that thou was naked?  (3:10,11)  Then, when it became apparent that they had disobeyed Him and were not repentant, He cursed them and the serpent who tempted them; but clothing was not part of that curse.  It is not told why the Lord made coats of skins for Adam and Eve (vs. 21).


The best speculation I have read about this was that it was to protect the humans against a new, harsher environment, and that it was the first blood sacrifice, a foretaste of the ultimate sacrifice of Gods Son.  Nowhere in Genesis 1-3 is there even an implication that God declared human bodies shameful.

Nor is there any subsequent commandment forbidding nudity in all circumstances.  The book of Exodus details how priests were to wear linen breeches (ch. 28:42,43) lest their nakedness be seen when they do sacrifices; but I was unable to find any other law regarding this.  On the other hand is the story of King Saul, who went down to Samuel's and David's hideout to try to capture David.











And the Spirit of God was upon him alsoAnd he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night.  (I Samuel 19:23,24)  The ancient author or authors seemed more surprised that Saul prophesied than at his nakedness; apparently it was acceptable, even common, to prophesy in the nude.  The saying was not Is Saul also naked? but rather, Is Saul also among the prophets?  (vs. 24)


Perhaps the most interesting passage I found is Isaiah 20. There God commanded the prophet to











Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot.  And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. (vs. 2)


Then, after three years, the Lord explained to Israel that this was a symbol of Egypts and Ethiopias shameful captivity at Assyrias hands.  Now, does God ever command a sinful act?

I also found that in at least one instance our Lord Jesus was casual about nudity.











At the Last Supper He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself.  After that he poureth water into a basin, and began to wash the disciples feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.  (John 13:4-5.)  Most modern translations specify outer garments, but the old King James Version, following the Greek, simply says garments.




Granted, probably only the Twelve were in the room, but any maid servant might have come in.  (He would also have been crucified in the nude, but that was not strictly His doing.)  Nor was Peter rebuked for fishing in the nude in John 21.  (Again, most modern translations don't indicate complete nudity, but the Greek and KJV do.)

I was also surprised to learn of the well-documented practice of baptism in the nude.  For about the first five centuries A.D., candidates would take off all their garments, be baptized, then receive white robes.  It was also common for Christians to visit public baths.  If these practices were sinful, why is the New Testament silent about them?

So I concluded that the Bible does not condemn social nudity, at least not in all circumstances.

After this, I did more online searching, this time seeking out nudist sites.  Now, the most common reason given today against nakedness is that it will lead to all kinds of sexual immorality.  But the nudists tell a different tale.

Nearly without exception, nudists and naturists (the terms are interchangeable) say that their social nudity is neither about sex nor sexual in nature.  Story after story tells how quickly one becomes accustomed to the feeling of ones own nakedness and able to look at other naked bodies without erotic arousal.  In fact, several reported healing from addiction to sexual perversions or pornography.  (I did find exceptions, but it was obvious that the principals had issues or misconceptions.)  And most nudist organizations have strict policies regarding public sex and molestation.  Do it once, and you're out.  Many groups even try to maintain a numeric balance between men and women, to make the women more comfortable.  (At public nude beaches, these things are much more difficult to enforce, and bad things happen.  But the nudist organizations soundly condemn such actions, and many forums discuss how to remove the sex fiends and perverts from these beaches.)

Yet even after this study, I still had to face the possibility that the nudists were either lying or in denial.  The only way I could be sure was to try it myself.  So I began to go naked in my own home, and quickly got comfortable with my own nudity.  I also looked through photo galleries on nudist websites to accustom my eyes and mind to the sight.  Since I was familiar with nudity in the visual arts, it didn't take long.  Then, finally, in August 2003, I attended a nudist gathering.

It was all I expected.  No sex, no erotic movements, no propositions, no lying, no denial.  Within seconds I was entirely comfortable with my own nudity and seeing other naked humans in the flesh.  The people were as friendly as any of my brothers and sisters in Christ, although by no means all were Christians.  All the good things I had read are true.  I found, too, that my body was more relaxed than it ever is in clothing.

So I now consider myself a sometime nudist, while remaining a full-time Christian.  If I have erred, and someone can prove it to me from the Bible, I may reconsider.  But until I am convinced otherwise, I will continue to accept nudity as true honest just pure lovely of good report.  (Philippians 4:8)

Scripture References:

Genesis 1-3

Genesis 3:10-11

Genesis 3:21

Exodus 28:42-43

I Samuel 19:23-24

Isaiah 20:2

John 13:4-5

John 21

Phillippians 4:8
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Nudist Article: Nudity and the Bible

Many nudists are Christians who adhere to the Bibles teachings. If you're new to this lifestyle and are also religiously devout, you might be nervous about being deemed a sinner. After all, the Bible very clearly states that when Adam and Eve were in right with God, they were naked. When people are in right with God, they do not have to fear nudity.
If you believe that God created everything we experience on this planet, then God created free will and our ability to use that will. If God had originally created man and woman and intended them to live without clothing until they were exposed to underhanded ideas, then we should start at that point. If one chooses to live according to the Bible, then one hopes to live without sin. Therefore, a nudist can live freely in spite of Adam and Eves original sin, because free will separates him or her from the willful sinning of the original couple. Christian nudists choose to shun the shame and lust heaped upon the body as a result of Satans work. Perhaps the rest of society should do the same.
Everything evolves, but churches are stuck in an old-time mentality when it comes to nudity. If you look closely at Genesis, you will find that God did not intend for us to be ashamed of our bodies. Rather, it was a byproduct of Adam and Eves shame for committing the first sin. Christians believe that Jesus died to help rectify those sins so that all people who believe can stand before God unashamed. The church should emphasize this point of redemption when dealing with the human body.
If our bodies are gifts from God and built in His image, how can we be ashamed? Should we not celebrate such an awesome creation? The human body is beautiful and built perfectly. It is an intricate machine and a work of art at the same time. With such a great gift to behold, why is there such offense?
Perhaps, you still have doubts and are used to equating the naked human form with the sexual human form, rather than seeing one as mutually exclusive from the other. Matthew 5:27 says that it is considered a sin to look at a woman lustfully. Well, logic would have it that the more we are brought up to see the human body outside of sexual situations and as a beautiful creation, we will have nothing to lust over.
The Bible does not place restrictions on being nude. God commanded Isaiah to go out and preach publicly in the nude for three straight years! (Isaiah 20). The prophets were often symbolically naked. When Saul stripped off his clothes and provided a prophecy before the masses, the onlookers simply assumed he was a prophet and was acting at the behest of God (1 Samuel 19:24). King David danced nude in the City of David over the news of the Ark of the Covenants return. His wife criticized this practice and was punished and left childless until her death (2 Samuel 6:20-23). While God condemned the use of make-up, He openly celebrated the human form, as He did through Ezekiel, made you
grow like a plant of the field, naked and bare. You grew up and became tall, and arrived at full maiden-hood, the ORNAMENT OF ORNAMENTS; your breasts were fully formed and your pubic hair had grown (Ezekiel 16:7). Since material was expensive and the climate hot, workers in Mesopotamia and Palestine, men and women, often labored nude in the fields. Peter fished naked (John 21:7). While lust for sexual contact is prescribed against in the Bible, the evidence is plentiful that God didnt intend the human body to be considered shameful in its own right.
Yet the churches lost this vision as time passed. Theodore of Mopsuestia (c. 400) said, "Adam was naked at the beginning, and unashamed. This is why your clothing must be taken off as baptism restores right relation to God." As new concepts of modesty developed around the sixth century,, and the body was no longer revered as beautiful and as the temple of God, but rather as something vile, filthy and naturally unclean. When St. Francis experienced his conversion, he removed his robes and walked nude in the piazza in Assisi. As the notion of the body changed, he was considered to be immodest, rather than provided the reverie given those in Biblical times. Further down the line, several popes required that the paintings of nude forms and statues by Michelangelo in the Sistine Chapel be hidden and fabrics painted to look like flowing linens were pasted over the offensive parts of the masterpieces. The painting was returned to its nude appearance in more recent times.
Still need convincing? Perhaps this anecdote will sway you completely. In the Gospel of Thomas, considered to be "superfluous to scripture" by the same council at Trent which determined what we today declare as "The Holy Bible," in Thomas 37, the disciples asked Jesus, When will you appear to us, and when will we see you? Jesus responded, When you become like little children, and disrobe without being ashamed, and you take your clothes and put them under your feet and trample them, you shall see the Kingdom of God, and you will not be afraid.
If you're religious and a nudist, you should be not afraid. The human body is not shameful and is not inherently lustful. Romans 14:16 points out, Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil.

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Christian and Happily Nude

vis1  Christian Nudist is many times regarded as a oxymoron. I've had people ask me how can you be a Christian and a nudist? Personally I think its very easy to be both Christian and nudist.  When Adam and Eve covered themselves it wasn't because of nudity it's because they were ashamed of their sin. Simple nudity is not sin or we could go in a steam room, shower at a gym or go see a Dr. Why is it OK for Dr. and nurses to see us nude because they went to college? Our society has created a unhealthy view of nudity, now always linked with sex to that point that breast feeding is frowned upon. Pornography and sexually explicit TV has warped the view of nudity to be ugly or perverted. We have been taught that different sizes, races  and aged bodies are gross and something to be shamed of. What has that gotten us, but a world where we get grossed out or ashamed by nudity.

I have been a caregiver of elderly and I see their family members appalled by their naked parent because we have been taught old people are ugly, fat people are ugly anything beyond social norm of  main stream beauty should be covered up and hidden away. We wonder why children are in hospitals for anorexia and the number of patients are going up. If people arent starving themselves they are cutting their body up with plastic surgery in the name of beauty and perfection they even created a TV show just for that purpose. Our culture has  taught us  by media and society what the picture of a perfect body is like. We look at ourselves  and judge not enough muscle, too short , too tall ,too much tummy, too little breast, wide hips,  it goes on and on. Nude no one is covering, sucking in, taping down and  lifting up body parts to the point of pain  trying to impress, it is just here I am take me as I am . The temple of God is beautiful in all shapes and sizes. Nudity is a great equalizer. Isnt that the way God says to come to him just as you are?

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Adam and Eve by Albrecht Drer (1507) given by Christina of Sweden to King Philip IV in 1654. see below) (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

In a nudist atmosphere we are more aware of Gods beautiful world.  When we go through life we  rush around, being nude outdoors causes us to become in touch with our surroundings.  We feel the air and sun on our entire body we experience textures differently .  We experience the water on our skin while swimming just as you enjoy sand  or grass between your toes same is with the rest of your body the experience is enhanced and appreciated on a different level. Many nudists love to meditate and worship in a place where they can sit in peace surrounded by Gods beauty communicating with their creator the way they were born. How can that be perverted or wrong?

Amongst nudists there is body acceptance there is no judgment among nudist we dont care what age you are, what race you are, your size does not matter.  There is a reason why nudists tend to open up and socialize easily no pretense nothing to prove, no clothes to strut  no concern of status. There are no clothes to see and generalize the quality or reputation of the person you have to actually get to know them. We talk about many different subjects and we may not all agree but we respect.You realize it doesnt matter what you look like God made you just the way you are even with wrinkles, a normal size penis and real breast that don't defy gravity. If God declared it is good then who are we to judge.



People relate nudity with porn which in our society its rampant and people are plagued with debt , sex addiction, and unrealistic sexual expectations.  Many people in our culture are obsessed nudity.  Why?  We have been taught that nudity equals sex.  Look at commercials they use sex to sell everything! Simple non sexual nudity helps deprogram the warped  mind  in a nude setting all is seen.  People learn that all bodies are good not just surgically enhanced porn bodies.  Nudism sheds light on the  lie of the world has told us regarding the body.  We are enlightened by the goodness of seeing the body in all ages, sizes, shapes and colors. No where in the Bible does it say nudity is wrong , it has to do with sexual perversions.. Modesty was in the context of behavior and Ive seen many immodest fully clothed people. Simple innocent nudity is not evil we were born naked, we die naked God did not create us to be ashamed of our bodies. I sleep naked, I relax naked , I cook naked and I pray naked.  God created me this way and I refuse to be ashamed.   I am a Christian Nudist!
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The man and his wife were both naked, yet they felt no shame. -- Genesis 2:25

RE: Nudist Article: Does God Desire Us To Be Ashamed?

Reprinted from a Christian Nudist Website....

Born naked, Die naked, enjoy LIFE naked!

Is it possible to be a Christian and enjoy clothing optional recreation / vacations / lifestyle?  Yes, we do!

Is naturism (aka nudism) a sin?  No!

If you consider yourself a Christian or "religious" person and you've never thought about simple social nudity (or only thought about it in a negative way), we'd ask you to ask yourself the questions we asked.  As you ask these questions why do you believe what you believe?  What is the theological / Biblical substantiation for your answer?

Does God have a viewpoint on the naked body?  

Can a Christian look at nude art?  

Can a Christian take an art class and see and draw a live nude model?  

Can a Christian be a nude model for an art class?  


How come doctors seem to be allowed to view a nude body does a medical degree give them that ability from God?  

Is nudity found in movies right or wrong?  Movies like Schindlers List have nudity, is this OK?  

How about nudity in the family, at what age does God say a parent should cover up around their child?  Should they cover up?  

Does God have an opinion on siblings bathing together?  

What about innocent skinny dipping?

What about the "natives" in other lands should missionaries clothe them?


What we discovered was there is such a thing as good nudity and that it is assumed in life.  This truth of good nudity provides the theological answer to the questions we asked.  

Our journey into the nudist world came as a result of a theological study that was prompted by a series of life events.  We have met many Christians in our naturist journey who also found the joys of clothes-free activities.  

A Christian who enjoys clothing optional recreation is one that believes God has created the body and that the body is good.  They have come to see that God does not forbid simple, non-sexual nudity.  In fact, most Christian nudists feel that God has used naturism to add to their lives in the following ways:

   Body Acceptance.  Our culture has been brain washed by the Madison Avenue fashion experts who tell us in picture and words what a perfect body is like.  How many times have you looked in the mirror and thought disparagingly at your body?  Not enough muscle, undefined abs, too little breast, wide hips, or not enough hair, and so it goes.   Naturism puts you in touch with your body and you see that others are just like you.  Plus, you realize that the super models in life are really not that pretty nude and the magazine centerfolds are definitely airbrushed.  Bottom line: you realize it doesnt matter what you look like.

   Body Demystification.  We are all curious.  Naturism allows the body to be seen and thus demystified.  You see what the clothes are covering.  The discovery is made that bodies are similar and at the same time different. 

   People Acceptance.  Once people are naked equality takes over.  You no longer judge or assess the value of a person by what they wear.  Weve always thought of ourselves as very non-judgmental type but weve discovered that we have been prejudiced by what people wear.

   Age Acceptance.  In our American culture we have pushed our senior citizens to the back of the shelf.  We have devalued them and we have definitely devalued their bodies.  To see someone in their golden years naked is at first a potential shock.  It happened first to us when our fathers were ill.  We were so unprepared to deal with their nudity.  Now years later as weve been in various naturist contexts, weve come to see (once again) how popular culture has conditioned us that the body of an aged person is ugly.  How sad.  Thanks to social nudity, we now look upon the human form, regardless of age, as something beautiful yes, wrinkles and all.

   Creation Awareness.  When we go through life we seldom take time to smell the roses.  Being in a social nude environment (especially for the first time) causes us to become in touch with the surroundings.  Well never forget the first time we felt the air and sun on our entire body.  The sensation of being alive was heightened and the awareness of the world around became enhanced.  As weve talked with others, they too have stated such enhanced sense of being.

   Communication Expansion.  There is something about sitting in a social setting with other naked people.  It might be around the pool, in the hot tub, or even under a shade tree.  But regardless of the context, discussions happen about all topics too!  They happen far more frequently and with far more ease than in a clothed environment.  You may or may not like to talk to others, but a common exclamation made by those who try social nudity is how friendly the others are.

   Pornography Prevention.  There isn' a day that goes by that we dont hear of the effects of porn in the lives of people.  Loss of jobs, obsession with the Internet, and unrealistic sexual expectations are caused by the porn industry.  No matter what you think about porn, it has harmed people and their reputations.  Many men (and a growing amount of women) in our culture salivate at any sign of skin.  Why is that?  We suggest that the mind has been conditioned by our culture to equate nakedness with sex.  Madison Avenue does this deliberately because sex sells.  We have discovered that social nudity and other forms of Good Nudity counteract this and renew the mind to the goodness of the body.  In a nude setting all is seen.  People who have battled porn learn that all bodies are good.  Because our society doesnt have or appreciate simple good nudity (i.e. non-sexual nudity) the only thing it has is pornography.  As soon as people step into the context of the good nudity found in naturism they discover the lie of the world regarding the body.  The grip of lust is broken in the heart by the goodness of seeing the body in all ages, sizes, shapes and colors.

   Deepening of Relationships.  A frequent result of a clothing optional experience is that of a deepening relationship with your loved one.  Simply trying a new experience together often creates a breakthrough and growth in the relationship -- especially when one or the other has been reluctant.  We've also noticed that the reluctant one then becomes the one who can't wait to repeat the experience!

There is not one verse that says simple nudity or seeing simple nudity is wrong.  Let us not call the most majestic aspect of God's creation -- our bodies -- something evil or vile to be seen.  Naturism might not be for everybody, but accepting and honoring the image of God is critical for all.
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RE: Nudist Article: Does God Desire Us To Be Ashamed?

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