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Likewise, *the thorn in my flesh* appears in no uncertain terms not to reference anyones penis. This is a logic leap that I cannot reasonably understand. Ten seconds on the internet found thousands of references and not one referenced a penis. Here is a quick one liner, * is used to describe an annoyance or trouble in one's life.* The article also reported that Pauls affliction was most likely eyesight though nothing categorically states that as fact. As I said earlier, give it a rest. Now, can the topic return to phallic symbolism of the ancient Romans?

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Thank you for calling out the one sided biased comments masquerading as victimization
It is best not to lump all members of a certain group as to having certain characteristics or beliefs. There is always a continuum of behaviors and ideals that each will subscribe there to. Your responses to different topics tend to point toward a bias against folks as you espouse an inclusive ideal. Both sides of the coin must be addressed or the stated points ring very, very hollow. In most simple terms, cut Christians a little slack.

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Yep and a bunch of them on this site
Well that proves that there have always been guys obsessed with dick.

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The naturist I meet and talk to are not obsessed with their own or anyone elses dick, not like many on the site seem to be.

Reaching back into history to justify or excuse your own obsession and claim it s ok for me to do this because , Im a nudist. Well thats not how most nudist think or act and they think the dick obsessed are just making nudism appear weirder to non nudists.

I wish there was a site like Truedicks, where you could all go and obsess over and compare with other Truedicks and leave naturism to those who enjoy it by not making it weirder.

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Stevie, now thats a thought. It could be the new *brother* site to TS and have open enrollment, too! Could you imagine the rush of folks to be charter members of the new Truedicks (TD) site? TT1 could offer discount memberships for the first 1000 folks to apply & color code their profile name to demonstrate charter membership status. Oh well, dont think it would happen but it does offer comic relief for non-applicants. And, Stevie, thank you for the humor. Its a good one.

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I hear ya Steve You just gotta shake your head when you see the stuff these people come up with to justify their perspective. I am confident even if they had a site like you describe they would still hover around because they arent satisfied doing their own thing in a limited space they have to draw on association with nudism/naturism for validation.
The naturist I meet and talk to are not obsessed with their own or anyone elses dick, not like many on the site seem to be.Reaching back into history to justify or excuse your own obsession and claim it s ok for me to do this because , Im a nudist. Well thats not how most nudist think or act and they think the dick obsessed are just making nudism appear weirder to non nudists.I wish there was a site like Truedicks, where you could all go and obsess over and compare with other Truedicks and leave naturism to those who enjoy it by not making it weirder.

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First they came for the Christians and I said nothing. Then they came for the Muslims and I still kept quiet. And then they came for me...

The post below contradicts itself halfway through, or is this more being half-sarcastic and I'm not catching it? Or is it more about what "they believe" versus what "they say", raising the point of the contradiction running through much of the Book? The Bible is supposedly God's word written by men through a divine connection. This web of contradictions gives the interpreter the ability to gear the teachings they offer toward whatever meaning they care to, even though the underlying message of loving thy neighbor is left essentially intact.

Christians believe that the human body (which includes the penis) to be the ultimate creation. The Bible says the human body is good, fearfully and wonderfully made, and the temple of the Set-apart Spirt. There is an entire book about joys and pleasures of extra-marital oral sex.Christians say the human body is the bad, shameful, and obscene, and that it's the cause of lust -- it only makes sense that they would considered the penis to be the worst part of it.If you're going to have any hope of undemonizing the penis -- you might want to start with Christians.

Bringing this back to a flippant place -- might the barrage of phallic 'symbols' (dicks growing from the walls) throughout Pompeii be nothing more than a way to have something sexy to lean against for a little pleasure as a person discusses the news of the day, or while waiting for the next prostitute to become available? At least the ones placed around waist high? When Vesuvius popped its load and killed most of the inhabitants, leaving us the vestiges of those heathen's final moments in their ash-built coffins, the horror of their fate frozen in place, I hope at least some of them were fucking when it happened. Talk about the ultimate orgasm! "You make the ground shake for me -- uuh uuh uuh -- u-oh!!"

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Pervasively across all cultures whether we accept it or not , not only is the penis 'demonised' but it is a subset of the inbuilt bias we have around males. Consider the following points:

If I say the word masculinity, many now immediately follow with the word toxicity. The association has become excessively strong in western society and most things considered masculine, including the penis, are by default , now part of a negative bias.

A naked woman is sexy to many but a naked man is not - without a C/O beach here in QLD its not uncommon for police raids on the unofficial C/O beaches. Men get charged, women get warnings...

Its erotic when a woman masturbates, and its disgusting when a man does - Sharon Stone masturbated in the bath tub in the movie "Shiver". This was considered erotic and artistic; can't say any movie scene where a man masturbates is considered anything but porn...

So if wanting to un-demonise the penis there's a lot more work to be done.

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If I say the word masculinity, many now immediately follow with the word toxicity. The association has become excessively strong in western society and most things considered masculine, including the penis, are by default , now part of a negative bias.

You do realise this website is possibly the most visible form of toxic masculinity. Have you considered the reason why no women post on this site, have you consider why there are a fewer women interested in naturism in general?

The cock waving brigade often cite that they are the new nudism and old nudism is dying. Thats toxic masculinity, they want their rights to supersede everyone elses.

The only way to combat that and stop the negative bias is to call it out where you can.

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Its erotic when a woman masturbates, and its disgusting when a man does - Sharon Stone masturbated in the bath tub in the movie "Shiver". This was considered erotic and artistic; can't say any movie scene where a man masturbates is considered anything but porn...

Theres Something about Mary, American pie, just two films with guys wanking, there are many more. Just because you only remember one scene does not mean its a universal fact.

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