Exasperating Chat experiences
Just left the chat room thoroughly drained of energy after chatting with a newbie with all sorts of breathless questions about seeing naked people. I guess I could have just ignored him or whatever but I thought I'd try to be patient and kind and answer his questions the best I could. His profile said nothing. No pictures, no location, nothing. I guess a free member and probably a kid. This guy was flabbergasted at seeing naked people acting normally.
When I was young it was way before the internet and I was able to gather quite a bit of knowledge about nudism even back then. It just seems to me our next generation is going backwards with the body shame game. Parents fault I guess.
Some people see and take the time to consider the real reasons and the real philosophy about nudism. Some people just see naked bodies and equate it to sex. I don't know how to reach these people. For many it is a hopeless cause. Very sad.
CN- Good for you to make the effort.
I don't think it's as much being shocked about nudism or body shame as it is being untrained on self training. Kids nowadays are not taught to think and investigate independently. They simply don't know how because it isn't taught anymore.
it could have been that you were talking to a 50 yo dude from a 3rd world country.
Been there, done that. It is my belief that if there were a primer on nudism that it would do no good. As a previous person said, "they are not taught to think", unfortunately they may not have any sense of value to which they may compare.
Least you answered his questions in a positive manner, hopefully some of what you said will sink in! We all had to start somewhere and at least this is a site where people can understand the benefits of naturism and see it in a positive light!
Yah, in spite of all the boasted superior education, it's all going backward. I was home schooled and taught to think for myself, to research a topic if I wanted to know more about it. My mother was a constant researcher of things that caught her interest. I benefited from her work and continued it myself. I could make quiet a list of the topics we've dug into and learned about. Naturism is one of my latest ones. Oh I've enjoyed naked woods wandering a long time, but never understood how good it is for our minds to get used to common nakedness in every day life. Naked is all about sex in modern life, and that is a severe perversion of how it should be, and once was not so long ago.
There's is no difference between times when I was younger and I thought I knew everything and my elders knew nothing. Nothings changed and that is the same today ... until those that are younger, grow older and realize that they knew less than they thought they knew.
Baby Boomers make up the bulk of the nudists there are today. I have to completely disagree that they are somehow remotely at fault for the nudity = sex misconception. This era of people grew up with gang showers in their early teen years and all through HS and college and many of these people went into the service where gang showers and simple nudity was not uncommon. This is almost entirely on the Gen X and those born afterwards that have the nudity = sex correlation and not the Baby Boomers. That's just not true and stating such with minimal experience in nudism and social nudism is how this misconception gets circulated as some sort of fact. The poster above states he's been a nudist for a couple years and is thinking of getting into social nudism but knows all this to be true of all older nudists or Baby Boomer nudists. I've been a nudist for over 44 years, a social nudist for over 23 years and would say I have a much more vast knowledge and experiences in nudism and have found the exact opposite with older nudists than this young person with 2 years experience and not yet experienced social nudism.
A couple decades ago, ALL showers and probably simple nudity in locker rooms at schools, gyms and public places like pools, was almost eliminated completely. Nowadays, you see younger males so embarrassed and afraid to get undressed without hiding in toilet stalls or with a towel on. They have this idea that every "ol' guy" is leering at them and is thinking about sex, when in fact, it's the younger person that has that on their minds and because they are thinking that, so must the older person. That's a bunch of bunk!
Back to the OP's post.
I once did what you did but not in chat rooms. I don't like chat rooms and don't visit them. But I did communicate with almost every newbie nudist I encountered on websites, such as this one. I honestly got tired of those experiences and found that those that just didn't get it within a few minutes, were never going to get it. I also encountered trolls that argued just to argue and I shut down the communication way before they could get their kicks in for trolling me.
These sites have FAQ sections. There are a myriad of topics on just about everything regarding nudism. The younger generation doesn't want to do the work to research anything so they just start new topics about the same things over and over again and then pontificate on their knowledge of life and how things really are ... without any real experience in what they are trying to speak of.
Oh, forheavenssake, it's not kids-these-day.... NO generation has ever been particularly eager to do research. This is a social site, and finding someone to ask your questions of is rather the point, whether or not there's a FAQ section.
I don't doubt that most of the older guys approaching a younger guy (let alone younger woman) on the site get around to something sexual - this is the internet, not real life, and that phenomenon doesn't say much about the world of real-life nudism. In which, really, us older folks who grew up with enforced nudity are no more likely to equate nudity with sex than are younger folks whose main exposure to nudity is porn.