RE:Nude gallery sites, child safety

There is no logic to most peoples attitude toward nudity.

Nudity and a myriad of other things.

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Personally I think nudism should be kept away from children when they are at the age that they are aware of it, I think all children should be kept out of public nudity. I think it should be their own decision to do it at home when they decide to and that after they are 18 can be in public. I just don't think it is for kids.

My daughter, who spent much of the first decade of her life nude at home, with relatives/friends, and at the resort, would beg to differ.

We're all entitled to an opinion, I guess. Mine is based on real life experiences - and not "some idea" that children will be harmed by nudity - though.

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RE:Nude gallery sites, child safety

I don't think that there is any one thing that we can do as a group to combat this; the Internet and Social Media will always allow individuals and groups to promote something as they wish for some kind of personal or financial benefit.

There will always be people and companies that promote "nudist" websites, pictures, and literature to those who find that organization's "skewed" presentation as titillating.

The only thing we can do is for each one of us to be as honest as we can about nudism and to explain what it really is when we have a chance to do so. I'm not talking about being an aggressive "in your face" activist and interjecting this topic into a dialogue with each and every person you meet, but when people do get to know you and you have the ability to somehow share that you participate in a nudist lifestyle at any level you then have the potential to educate someone who may have erroneous beliefs about what the lifestyle entails.

In my opinion, each one of us needs to be a bit more honest with those around us about our participation as nudists, and you need to be able to speak about what it truly involves, meaning both the positive and negative aspects of it - if we're being candid we know most people will automatically make the assumption in linking our behavior to being that of what they've seen or assume to be true about nudism when you state you are a nudist (or participate in nudist activities), so you have to be able to speak as to what nudism is and what it isn't.

In short, we need to be more honest with non-nudists and we need to present an educated and personal picture of what nudism is when given the chance...

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This keeping it away from kids thing is the reason for a whole lot of sexual lust addictions and corruption that goes on.

I have been closely analyzing my own experience. My childhood was virtually flawless in all respects, and yet as I started to mature a lust addiction popped up out of nowhere and grew until it took over my mind, I fought it for 3 decades with no success, finally had to just throw it all in God's lap and tell Him "You clean up my mind, I can't do it." That's when naturism came my way, and it worked, the addiction faded away after I started going naked a lot in common life. (my lust addiction went inward, I was my own porn star as it were) Then with further analysis I have come to realize that it was the missing element of common nudity between the ages of 5-15 generally that set up the conditions which allowed that lust addiction to develop. But it has to be non sexual nudity. The adults around them should go naked as much as possible and say nothing about it, just ignore it, no lust tie to it, no sexist related comments. So I discovered just how harmful it is to isolate our children from common nudity of both sexes, I am to the place of considering it child abuse to hide nudity from the children, because of what it's doing to them. It allows the lusts of the mind to grab onto nudity to feed off of when puberty comes along, while if the sight of nudity were as common as seeing hands and faces the lusts would find nothing there to latch onto. It would just be too common a sight to pay any attention to it. That's why a boy develops lust drive over breasts and vaginas, that's why homosexual attraction arises in them. It can go either way. Due to how my lusts went inward I would have become a homosexual if my nature and social conditions were different. But because I was pretty shy and had a bible based life concept, The bible passages condemning same sex activity and my own lack of social life held me back from outward expression of it. But once I discovered naturism and started going naked intentionally a lot in common work, normalizing my own nudity to myself in common life, all that mentally uncontrollable fantasizing went away. Both my mother and father were astute about protecting us from evil, and protecting us from the sight of common nudity was part of it. But it was the wrong way to do it. They should have reverted to garden of Eden style living and it would have been much better for me. That was our Creator's best plan for us and we do our race and our children much evil by leaving the plan.'

So this keep it away from the children thing is based on a misunderstanding of the mechanics of lust development and psychology of the mind. The sexualization of nudity and the lustification of it should be kept away from them. But not common nudity. The more ordinary it is to them the better.

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Hello all,I'm a firm believer that clothes are a utility and not natural. The shame and sexuality associated with nudity is a product of culture. However, it's still important to be aware of the fact that non nudist culture sees nudity as sexual.This being said, I only recently tried to connect with the nudist community. My first few searches for nudism was extremely troubling because it provided links to photo galleries of young naked girls and not anything really nudist about them. It's clear that there are deviants using nudism as a cover to propagate child pornography. They may not be engaged in sexual activity, but the perverts spending their time there, I assume, are.How do we as people who see nudity as being natural and not sexual fight this kind of thing? It makes us look bad, and it's gross.

I am afraid to say this is not only connected to nudity but the internet as a whole is covered with this stuff, and you'll find that any search for what might seem like innocuous words brings up any variety of hardcore porn. The search engines Google uses run on popularity and connections. So you're seeing what is most often searched for and those top hits in relation to your own search history. Porn is often a top hit so don't be too dismayed. If you feel models you see online are not of age, you can report the site to the organized police task force of the country that is HOSTING the site. This can be incredibly difficult to find in some cases, and I can tell you from the task load of the people who are fighting this, simple nudes are very low priority. There's plenty of information at the FBI website or there used to be.

The short answer is that there is not much to be done, other than what I mentioned and asking the site to stop using SEO for nudism or naturism and that is not often going to happen. I think that most people realize that porn is porn and those who are going to judge are already. Something to keep in mind when searching is to combine terms: nudist clubs, nudist community, nudist resort, nudist groups, because when you leave it open "nudist" Google cross references that term with a top hit. Guess which ones?

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RE:Nude gallery sites, child safety

Personally I think nudism should be kept away from children when they are at the age that they are aware of it, I think all children should be kept out of public nudity. I think it should be their own decision to do it at home when they decide to and that after they are 18 can be in public. I just don't think it is for kids.

The confusion of naturist images with porn is a grave concern for us as naturists - particularly where underage naturists are involved, but I want to address the reply Ive quoted above.

I respect the sincere concerns behind this opinion but, with respect, I disagree. To make naturism an over 18s activity endorses the misguided notion that its an adult activity and also kills off its future. Its also, in my opinion, ironically counterproductive from a child protection perspective.

As a man who was sexually abused as a boy ( Catholic clergy ) Im both intensely aware and deeply committed to protecting children and young people. Nothing is more important!

Yes, of course, anyone whos nude on a public beach might be seen or even photographed / videod by a pervert. The thought of this happening to children is abhorrent to us all but the remedy isnt to kill off family naturism! That would be the same as banning hospitals because some people die in them.

The truth about child abuse is that it preys on shame and misguided guilt and the resultant silence and secrecy. A child raised in a no nudity culture where theyre taught to be ashamed of their bodies and that sex is dirty and something that shouldnt be learned about or even talked about is an ideal victim for a sexual predator. On the other hand a child from a naturist family whos growing up without body shame and is unembarrassed to discuss issues relating to body or sex is not an ideal target. Theyll be used to normal nude interactions with adults and will immediately recognise unusual or inappropriate behaviours. And because of that they have a trait that every paedophile fears - theyll talk!!! Theyll understand if someones behaviour is wrong and they wont be embarrassed to tell. As a naturist parent with my own personal history of being abused I know these concerns very well - Ive given them a lot of thought. Our sons are teenagers now and have been on nudist beaches etc lots. Its worked wonderfully for them and for us all as a family.

Yes, the thought of someone perving at the sight of our children or capturing and sharing images is utterly sickening - but the answer isnt to kill off the best, healthiest, happiest upbringing a child can have. In life we have to balance different considerations and weigh up the pros and cons. The benefits of family naturism are enormous and as naturists we need to promote that healthy lifestyle and defend it from misunderstandings or mistaken impressions that naturism is inappropriate for children. In tandem with that we all need to collectively support naturist families by being extra vigilant on naturist beaches etc and acting appropriately if we see any inappropriate behaviour.

I do agree in part about waiting until kids are over 18 in relation to images. While we have naturist family photos we never ever share them. However when the boys are adults we would be perfectly happy for THEM to decide to share photos of their naturist childhood. That could even help to show non naturists how wholesome and wonderful family naturism is! Remember all nude images are not pornography! If they were art galleries ( including State owned ones ) all over the world should be burnt to the ground!

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My first few searches for nudism was extremely troubling because it provided links to photo galleries of young naked girls and not anything really nudist about them. It's clear that there are deviants using nudism as a cover to propagate child pornography. .

We all know the power of social media at this time. Also, how social media is incorrectly used in many cases. So, pictures of nude kids should not be posted on the internet. An adult somehow is less vulnerable but I child is not. Nude website should definitely establish a limit for users at least 18 years old

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this is an easy one, if you find nudist pictures of childs on the net, send the link to the police and write they should look at it

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So, pictures of nude kids should not be posted on the internet. An adult somehow is less vulnerable but I child is not. Nude website should definitely establish a limit for users at least 18 years old

Posting pictures of anybody in the nude without their permission is wrong, IMO.

With children, it's a little trickier. I would insist that the publisher have the parents' consent, but I wouldn't ban pictures entirely if their content was clearly non-sexual. Otherwise, we would never have had those wonderful pictures by Jock Sturges and other photographers.

The nude body is beautiful, regardless of the subject's age. It seems paradoxical that we can go to a nudist resort and see naked children, but we can't see photographs or videos of them. Of course, parental consent is a given in a resort setting, since the parents took their kids to the resort realizing full well that other adults and children would see the kids naked. But if the web site owner similarly insists on written parental consent, I see no harm in publishing those pictures or videos. To me, they represent what nudism is all about... people of all ages and types seeing other people as they really are, without shame or judgment, which is a lesson people should learn at the earliest age possible.

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Everything has 2 sides. On one side we must protect our kids. On the other if a teenager looks nowadays in the internet - what he in fact does on sites he shouldn't - he learns that nudism is only for adults and belongs to pornography.

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