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I think it's very normal and natural -- especially among people who were not raised in nudist (or, at least open) households.I wanted to discuss a blurry line for myself with nudism and sexuality. Part of what I enjoy so much about being a nudist is being able to see other men naked. This is clearly voyeurism but isn't necessarily a sexual voyeurism, but rather an intense appreciation/fascination. Of course, sometimes this leads to arousal or sexual exploration with other nudists who consent. I wonder if anyone else feels this push and pull of desire of wanting to see other men naked - not always in a sexual or erotic way - but just to be able to gaze and stare without fear of judgement. And furthermore how that fits into a nudist lifestyle as both platonic non-sexual experiences and as an entry point to sexual exploration.We should have grown up seeing others nude. It should not be unusual. Our curiosity should have had the opportunity to abate a long time ago.My best guess is the a good "cure" would be to be around nude people a lot -- especially if it's ok to "look" to your heart's content.

But this isn't voyeurism. You're all just talking about regular human behavior around looking at the world and others. Voyeurism is a sexual fetish that involves deriving erotic pleasure from looking intently at a person, persons or parts thereof, in public but more commonly with some aspect of subterfuge.

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But this isn't voyeurism. You're all just talking about regular human behavior around looking at the world and others. Voyeurism is a sexual fetish that involves deriving erotic pleasure from looking intently at a person, persons or parts thereof, in public but more commonly with some aspect of subterfuge.

Best reply I have read in a long time.

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Best reply I have read in a long time.

Agreed. He totally nailed it - in the simplest way.

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I'm not sure if I count, see when I was younger I had a huge fear of being seen naked and penis size, I had never seen nudity, so naturally when I got the chance, like pool/beach changing rooms, I would look, it all came to a peak with my father seeing me for the 2nd time, I chose to get nude in front of him, I noticed him looking, I guess enjoying the view he helped create, I ended up getting erect (Yeah I know this is more exhibitionism I'm getting to the other) and he told me I'd make a girl happy one day and he's impressed with me both soft and hard, i came to conclusion that my dick was ok size, however no I'm still like a 14 year old boy...
since I never had freinds I didn't get to see much, but with the internet, you can find anything, like I quite enjoy scrolling google images for "naked rugby" pictures, they don't always turn me on, I do like seeing the nude body especially when it's average people, they're in a public setting, med to small penis, it can be erotic, but also just eye candy, one thing that I think really killed my genital dysphoria was pictures from the world naked bike ride, some guys are so small they don't have visible shafts, that really put it in my head that size can vary a lot, so I should be comfortable in a situation where strangers can see me, sure they may think like whoa that's small but I would never be shamed,
I love all bodies, I think 10 year olds are as cute as a button (sadly you can't say stuff like this without people screaming pedo, society is way to pedophobic, sure keep an eye on the kids but don't start screaming pedo like a banshee) and I think 50 year olds are refined gentlemen and just before that point where gravity starts bringing everything down, I also like having people look at me, at first it was family coz they were all I had access to, but like one instance in a changing room at 16, guy comes in just after I showered, made a joke about having a flagpole with no flag, something in me just cracked and I had my first ejaculation without friction, I thought he was extremely good looking, 40 something, possibly army, see this is kinda what I'm a bit scared of even tho I ain't 16 anymore,
is this exhibitionism and voyeurism, will I get an erection? Will I ejaculate? Will I even be turned on and am just making a mountain out of a mole hill? I dunno, I guess the way is to just slowly dip my toes in, meet with just one guy first for a nude hang out, join groups that do things with the least amount of people as possible, then slowly climb the ladder, I'm sure I'll get erections at least, I'll just make a joke and move on, but if I focus my mind, think unsexy thoughts, I think I can eventually separate the nudity from arousing things, it just sucks that this penis envy turned it like almost into a fetish, I blame society, on one hand you have these softcore porn music videos, but then they'll go and censor a rear end, like who hasn't seen a bum, why be offended by it?

So from everything I've said, am I both? It depends? Neither or one?

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Sniff, sniff.

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I'm not sure if I count, see when I was younger I had a huge fear of being seen naked and penis size, I had never seen nudity, so naturally when I got the chance, like pool/beach changing rooms, I would look, it all came to a peak with my father seeing me for the 2nd time, I chose to get nude in front of him, I noticed him looking, I guess enjoying the view he helped create, I ended up getting erect (Yeah I know this is more exhibitionism I'm getting to the other) and he told me I'd make a girl happy one day and he's impressed with me both soft and hard, i came to conclusion that my dick was ok size, however no I'm still like a 14 year old boy...since I never had freinds I didn't get to see much, but with the internet, you can find anything, like I quite enjoy scrolling google images for "naked rugby" pictures, they don't always turn me on, I do like seeing the nude body especially when it's average people, they're in a public setting, med to small penis, it can be erotic, but also just eye candy, one thing that I think really killed my genital dysphoria was pictures from the world naked bike ride, some guys are so small they don't have visible shafts, that really put it in my head that size can vary a lot, so I should be comfortable in a situation where strangers can see me, sure they may think like whoa that's small but I would never be shamed,I love all bodies, I think 10 year olds are as cute as a button (sadly you can't say stuff like this without people screaming pedo, society is way to pedophobic, sure keep an eye on the kids but don't start screaming pedo like a banshee) and I think 50 year olds are refined gentlemen and just before that point where gravity starts bringing everything down, I also like having people look at me, at first it was family coz they were all I had access to, but like one instance in a changing room at 16, guy comes in just after I showered, made a joke about having a flagpole with no flag, something in me just cracked and I had my first ejaculation without friction, I thought he was extremely good looking, 40 something, possibly army, see this is kinda what I'm a bit scared of even tho I ain't 16 anymore,is this exhibitionism and voyeurism, will I get an erection? Will I ejaculate? Will I even be turned on and am just making a mountain out of a mole hill? I dunno, I guess the way is to just slowly dip my toes in, meet with just one guy first for a nude hang out, join groups that do things with the least amount of people as possible, then slowly climb the ladder, I'm sure I'll get erections at least, I'll just make a joke and move on, but if I focus my mind, think unsexy thoughts, I think I can eventually separate the nudity from arousing things, it just sucks that this penis envy turned it like almost into a fetish, I blame society, on one hand you have these softcore porn music videos, but then they'll go and censor a rear end, like who hasn't seen a bum, why be offended by it?So from everything I've said, am I both? It depends? Neither or one?

For sure you are not a nudist. Read this and understand: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturism

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Marcus, I really dont think he is interested in naturism.

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Then he should delete his account and go to trueswingers.com

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Then he should delete his account and go to trueswingers.com
I'm not interested in swinging, I'm interested in nudism, my other posts I was more focusing on the two fetishes, shit you'd think someone who's not a nudist would spend the entire after school day nude? Or want to be naked at all, do the shit that clubs do like bowling swimming hiking nude, I wanna do all that I just need to separate nudity from sex, which can be a hard thing to do

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I just need to separate nudity from sex, which can be a hard thing to do

You are doing a fine job of it.

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