RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

As far as I am concerned, what you do in private is your business. That said, I don't see any issues with masturbating while fantasizing about your spouse. I was raised Catholic as well, and yes, the church does consider it a sin. Then again, the only vices they don't consider sins are drinking, smoking, and gambling. I never considered it a sin as long as you were not hurting anyone, doing it in public for thrills, or fantasizing about something terribly wrong (there are limits). Just my opinion.

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RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

It all depends if you believe everything people say and want you to believe . If it's based on fear , shame and guilt and fear of death then that should tell you there is something wrong with the concept of judging you for it stop and think them same means are used by extortionists and con men, same way religion uses it !

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RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

As far as I am concerned, what you do in private is your business. That said, I don't see any issues with masturbating while fantasizing about your spouse. I was raised Catholic as well, and yes, the church does consider it a sin. Then again, the only vices they don't consider sins are drinking, smoking, and gambling. I never considered it a sin as long as you were not hurting anyone, doing it in public for thrills, or fantasizing about something terribly wrong (there are limits). Just my opinion.

Yes, my masturbation sessions have involved fantasies about hubby and for the most part doing acts that we have already done or discussed. Outdoors, at our campsite at the club and watching each other are favorites ... LOL. We like to tent camp in spots that are mostly shielded from people walking by so we can still have our fun out in the open. We are not public exhibitionists. We don't do sexual things with others. However, as Pipearl4Christ has mentioned if people accidentally stumble across us, so to speak, we don't stop and act ashamed. We hope that our activity inspires others to have joyful, enthusiastic sex.

I know many would disagree about my philosophies. I have thoroughly enjoyed masturbation since I was young and my mother explained sex and enjoyment to my sister and I. Hubby and I are totally comfortable with each other sexually and never mind if the other one is satisfying themselves solo.

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RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

Eternal life is not something to take any risk with. We need to be absolutely sure we're on track with God's will for us. He promised to guide us if we're serious about it and ask for the holy Spirit to clean us up and get us ready for eternity.

Ernie Knoll's dreams at formypeople.org are revealing what eternity will be like once this world is finished and evil eliminated. As well as what we're in for tween now and then. And even though the disasters that throw this earth into chaos are terrible, what follows is so awesome, so marvelous, don't miss it for anything!!
And so, everything in our life has to be carefully examined and determine if it's good or bad, and eliminate the bad with His help.

I asked God about masturbation, He made it clear to me that it was not what he wanted me doing. So I don't want to do it, even though my physical nature wants to now and then. So just ask God for yourself. If we're serious about gaining purity of life and the Kingdom of heaven, we should be willing to do whatever it takes to get there. And it's going to be infinitely better than winning the biggest lottery ever offered on earth.

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RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

I have debated this subject in my mind many times.
I believe the line in the sand may be covetousness!
Is not coveting at the core of all lust?
Is it coveting or experiencing stimuli?
So if you are having covetous thoughts........!
Just my input for further dialog.

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RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

I think that Reuben T makes a good point about masturbation: So just ask God or your Higher Power for yourself. Ask what? How? Yo dude! I'm horny and hard! Beat off or not? OK I'm waiting! No thunder bolts? OK, there's the lube!
Maybe it's the question of sin, not masturbation, which needs a closer look. In my evangelical upbringing, I was taught about a personal relationship with God and that sin was separation. What made no sense is how sin and sinful behavior were publicly defined, a one-size fits all approach. I took them at their word and followed their truth about sin, and it was a very Puritanical outcome.
HL Menken defines Puritanism as "the great haunting fear that somebody, somewhere, may be happy". In my case, my religion made me not only unhappy, but traumatized and numbed, and my evangelical male friends died a disproportionately high number of young, tragic deaths. Looking back, I feel that they too were numbed by all the shame and disassociation and trying so hard to be able to be able to feel: one by flirting with a cliff edge, another by trusting his drunk driver buddy and a third tasting the end of a shotgun in his mouth, then pulling the trigger. Masturbation is so much easier and life-affirming than that!
I personally try to avoid outside visual stimulation when masturbating since I'm focusing on restoring my own sensuality. I also think there is an uncomfortable objectification in some porn, though I also see it as a potential therapy too. Sin is separation and I see both religious and sexual teachings and practices as potentially alienating and sinful. But I will praise God with and through my penis, and know that a loving God made it to enjoy and that it is good, flaccid and erect, alone and with others, flowing inwardly and out, it makes me alive.

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RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

Ernie Knoll's dreams at formypeople.org are revealing what eternity will be like once this world is finished and evil eliminated.
They are revealing what he dreams eternity will be like. As to whether or not they are true, how do you evaluate that? Hopefully we can agree that not everyone claiming to have dreams is to be believed, and not every would be prophet is a true one. How do you evaluate this?

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RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

We humans are very much sexual beings. Sex is meant to be enjoyed and masturbation just happens to be one of the joys of sex and porn is also one way to help people enjoy sex and masturbation.

I started masturbating when I was about 15 and did it feel good. It is about the time I started nudism also. Playboy and Penthouse magazines figured into the equation at the time. It still feels good 45 years later and even better with the soft hands of my girlfriends and or wife masturbating me as I masturbate them mutually during foreplay and yes, we watch porn. Once video cameras became manageable, we created our own and still do for our own viewing and have shared with friends over the years for their viewing pleasure during their sex or masturbation enjoyment and they have shared their videos with us.

Porn just like masturbation is very much part of the sexual repertoire. Porn can help get the juices flowing and sexual mood temperature hotter. Whether its self-masturbation, or mutual masturbation with my wife or our FWB, porn will aways be an integral part of our sex life. I guess in the eyes of the puritan prudes we are definitely sinners in more ways than one.

Life is too short, so if a person enjoys masturbation and porn, be happy and don't worry what others may think, I sure don't, even if in public.

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RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

From personal experience, Simply masturbating/watching porn, smoking, drinking, or anything else that the church commonly deems as sinful even though the bible itself may not outright call it out as sinful, will not in and of itself cause you to lose your salvation. Such actions can however rob you from being able to experience pure ecstatic joy that can only come from meditating on the presence of the Father through scripture, anointed church gatherings, Christian fellowship, or any other means God may want to reveal himself to you.

For example, For a number of years, I would drink alcohol on occasion as I saw nothing wrong with it (of which I still don't in of itself). However, while meditating on the Love of God, I started feeling convicted by the Holy spirit that I should give it up, as if I would be rewarded greatly if I were to obey Him. I did, and quit drinking all together, and that resulted in me feeling quite a bit more overall joy and a deeper sensitivity to the Holy spirit making the sacrifice well worth it.

Also, for most of my life ( been a believer since childhood) I discovered porn relatively soon after my parents had gotten the interned and have been hooked on it since off and on. Of course, with all the church teaching me that it was bad, along with constantly receiving mixed messages about masturbation possibly also being sinful, it also left me confused and wanting to quit simply because I was being told it was sinful, and it seemed wrong at the same time. This constant battle eventually led me to discover naturism which did wonders in helping to retrain my body to not automatically start burning with lust whenever I was exposed to a naked body. However, even then I could shake the desire to masturbate to porn. Eventually, through the struggle something clicked and I gave a prayer to God and was brutally honest with Him and with myself that I just could not shake the habit of masturbating to porn, and that He would have to take the desire away from me if He didn't want me doing such actions. After that prayer, For a good long time I would continue with the habit, but now I didn't feel so miserable about doing it, and I felt more free to be able to enter into the presence of God and enjoy Him without the worry of doing something wrong. Anyway, several months in after developing that habit of entering into the presence of God, I started realizing that the desire to lust after pornographic images/videos was quickly starting to fade away to the point that now, more often than not, even the thought of turning to and searching for something sexual in nature feels wrong, and I feel that my spiritual growth, and my sheer love of reading the bible has grown exponentially during that time. Other than that, I do still enjoy masturbating regularly and don't feel any conviction to give it up (other than to maybe go on a temporary fast from it occasionally). On the other hand I do sense that there are far greater levels of glory/heavenly experiences that is available to us while on the earth should one be willing/able to sacrifice all earthly desires as is possible for the sake of advancing the Kingdom of Heaven on the earth.

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RE:Is watching hardcore/softcore porn while masturbating a sin?

Maybe I should stay silent on this subject since I'm not religious as the term is typically interpreted. I do have a spiritual side to me, regained after many years of mostly ignoring that part of my life, and I'm glad to be back to having that in my daily life again. It is quite possible that some reading this who've read other posts by me would prefer I keep my opinions to myself, especially since I am not involved in organized religion. There is enough depth to these intertwined subjects and my feelings are strong enough about them that I'll speak to them here, even though I am something of an outsider. Please regard them as presented.

The subjects are complicated to a person like me, very sexually active but only with my partner but never to pornography of any kind. When we make love it is only us, and that's the way we like it and how it needs to be, for us. Fantasizing about other things or people when we are involved in the physical act of love is not healthy - again, I speak only for us. My sweetheart is quite religious in a more traditional way, and I think she would agree that when we are engaged in our love we are right where we need to be to be best connected with the Universe (that's my mind) or closer to God (that's hers).

Avoidance of any fantasies beyond the two of us hasn't always been our choice - it was something we decided was best given our situation, and will undoubtedly not work for everyone. We make love with the lights on most of the time, to ground us and connect us and bring us together, body, mind and soul, and accomplished in view of a mirror if we're so lucky. I fault not people who prefer the dark, but as nudists we love and are enraptured by the view....I mean duh! With my need to wear glasses for all but the closest views surely creating another challenge given certain activities, but I'm veering off topic.

When it comes to porn - and this comment has nothing to do with personally-produced pictures, audio and video, because that is you and yours, to do with as you care to - the viewing of others having sex can be very pleasurable and pleasing and engorges the organs that get that way when encouraged by such means, both literally (genitals) and figuratively (brain). Personal experience taught my sweetheart and I that any perceived excitement gotten from visualizing and hearing others in their pleasure zone did not add anything positive to what we felt was going on between the two of us. It in fact worked against us by causing a disconnection due to our heads going in different directions rather than the way they should be going - together!

Solo viewing of pornography seems healthy and refreshing as long as one doesn't get lost in the story. As you masturbate to the sight of others enjoying sex it is easy to either put yourself in the scene somehow, or to draw your mind back to a past real experience you enjoyed. All sorts of positive hormones are released during and after orgasm, and an honorable mention goes to the good regular orgasms do for the menfolk in the way of prostate health. That said, addiction-prone individuals need to always bear in mind that constant, habitual masturbation to porn tends to drive them toward the novel and new, leading down a path that can in time leave them wanting more and more extreme forms of pornography. Beware if that path draws you in since it is cumulative and dangerous. If you are God-oriented and feel yourself being drawn in, trust your own judgement, but if you feel bad when you finish your orgasm, you need to pray for guidance and meditate for some help from your maker.

Any and every often depraved form of sex act can be readily found and watched if you search for it. Where sin may become involved is the actual production of the media you are viewing. Don't let yourself be fooled into thinking that some of what you see comes without exploitation of the people involved in its making. By visiting sites where such pornography is offered you are becoming part of that story. And even if you don't pay for the porn monetarily, know that by letting it in to your mind, it can make you pay psychically and spiritually.

Strict Bible readers often find sin at every turn, far beyond the obvious intercourse outside of marriage and not strictly for making babies. Getting paid for sex or for performing sexually on camera for money would be called sin by many Christians. Isn't watching that product involving yourself in a sinful act?

I hope I haven't stepped on too many toes here and thank you for letting me vent some. I look forward to hearing more on this lively topic.

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