RE:How many think Biden is ruining this country?

Okay, I'm done with you here! And this topic! It was a good run but going south badly.I love a good debate but I've had enough of your name calling, your HATE and your baiting!I think you have psychological issues to deal with.You demonstrate much more than a left leaning political passion. Not just a difference of opinion!You've established who you are and your obsession.People like you are scary!Well like most normal people I tend to have a general dislike for terrorist sympathisers like yourself, I don't really see why I should apologise for that to be honest. Donald Trump is now a domestic terrorist, Literally the whole world saw him incite a terrorist attack on Capitol Hill, it was the second biggest news story after the Corona Virus, that's now a matter of recorded history, and you're STILL defending him.So yeah, I'm not suprised you are done with this, because you've re alised that your time is up, and the rest of the world will no longer tolerate your Kellyanne Conway style of "alternative facts", in other words, flat out lies. It is going south badly for you, defintely. I've proven your lies to be lies and of course, you've got no arguments left.You think I have psychological issues? Ok, well I'm not the one that's worshipping a cult leader in Donald Trump , so you can think whatever you want.I don't really know what you mean when when you describe me as "left leaning". If you mean normal decent people who aren't white supremacists, then fine, I'll take that label. It's not really an insult to be honest. You've proven to everyone on this thread that you are certainly not supreme over anyone else depsite what you think of yourself. Master race, you are most certainly not, you just don't have the intelligence, as everyone can see. It;s you that's made a conscious choice to come on here and spout your ill-educated and ill-informed "facts" and so far have been unable to back these "facts" up with any kind of supporting evidence, so therefore they aren't facts at all, it's just stuff you've made up and I've managed to prove you wrong, every single time.That isn't my fault, that was YOUR choice to come on here and spout your nonsense. If you go around telling people that 2+2=5 then sooner or later someone's going to come along and correct you, Get over it. Don't start complaining because I've exposed you, you're time is up and the rest of the world simply will not tolerate your attempts to re-write history.It's actually not me you're scared of. In reality it's the truth that you don't want to acknowledge that's scaring you. You think you're debating with me, you're not, you're arguing with facts, reality and recorded events.But I'm guessing if I scare you so much and you need a safe space, then there's always Tucker Carlson, he will probably tell you exactly what you want to hear.

Just dont waste your time. Believe me in politics you can never change other people mindset no matter how wrong they could be. Enjoy life.

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RE:How many think Biden is ruining this country?

Just dont waste your time. Believe me in politics you can never change other people mindset no matter how wrong they could be. Enjoy life.

Nothing of what I have said is an opinion or a mindset. It's not me he is arguing with, it's facts and reality he is arguing with.

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RE:How many think Biden is ruining this country?

Just dont waste your time. Believe me in politics you can never change other people mindset no matter how wrong they could be. Enjoy life.

I was hopeful that this could be a civil and informative debate. Unfortunately this has turned into an ad hominem attack against one person and shows intolerance of opinions here. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to their opinions. Sadly, in the USA today, there is way too much hatred, anger, and personal attacks from both sides against the other side and this is not at all beneficial to the nation as a whole. We can solve no problems if we can't reach a point where we can have civil and respectful conversations about issues. Life is seldom black and white and presidents are generally neither entirely good or bad.

Now back to the usual trite naked hugs, cyber kisses, and how is the weather kind of topics along with the usual shaving threads. Perhaps these are the only kinds of topics that can work here because too many here are just too immature to keep discussions civil and respectful.

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RE:How many think Biden is ruining this country?

Mark the concur box for me, also. Was really hoping for something better along the way.

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I was hopeful that this could be a civil and informative debate. Unfortunately this has turned into an ad hominem attack against one person and shows intolerance of opinions here. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to their opinions.

Well then stop trying to make every single debate about people's opinions. If you want a civil and informative debate then opinions play very little part in it. You're supposed to be debating facts and truths, so when one side is just coming out with flat out lies under the guise of "it's my opinion, respect it!!", then that's not a civil and informative debate.

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I was just about to ask:,where was all this ,name calling, hatred. and baiting"? Unless I'm reading it wrong. it seems like that accusation is being directed at Konami Code. Is that correct? If so, O really must be shown where. I've beem following this thread fairly closely. but know that I've missed some of the comments, but from all I've seen his arguments were tremendously impressive for the very fact that they rested on verifiable facts WITHOUT imposibg personal bias on them. I even commended them on that very point earlier in this thread.

If by "name calling" you are referencing things like declsring Trump a "domestic terrorist"., I woild submit that isn't name calling so much as labeling him what the facts bore out he is. Is that the sort of thing meant or what? I'm a bit lost on this latest part.

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RE:How many think Biden is ruining this country?

Well, there is Dr. Ola.

Granted, US politics has gotten really awful, I think in large part because people tend to settle into information ruts. Facebook or YouTube will feed you more and more of whatever you looked at last; the media line up in opposing camps. I will confess that after the Chauvin verdict, as I have done in the past after various military ventures and other big US events, I have had recourse to Le Monde and Le Figaro - so nice to have a window outside the Anglophone world - for their takes, as a sort of double-check on reality. (The two papers are politically quite different, but not to the bizarre extent of, say, Fox or MSNBC in the US.) It would be really lovely to be able to use this kind of forum similarly, as a window into other views.

I was invited to dinner once at the home of a Bangladeshi family in California. After the dinner, the Bengali women retreated to the kitchen; the Americans and the Bengali men went to the living room, where our host specifically invited us to talk politics. His suggested topic was economic protectionism. So we actually talked politics, sharing our takes on the issue, responding to each other, reasoning from what history and economics we knew . In the sort of way that in a democracy, as both countries are, helps to build a thoughtful and informed electorate. In the US, for too long now, it has been considered impolite to talk politics, and we have forgotten how to do it.

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RE:How many think Biden is ruining this country?

Well, there is Dr. Ola.Granted, US politics has gotten really awful, I think in large part because people tend to settle into information ruts. Facebook or YouTube will feed you more and more of whatever you looked at last; the media line up in opposing camps. I will confess that after the Chauvin verdict, as I have done in the past after various military ventures and other big US events, I have had recourse to Le Monde and Le Figaro - so nice to have a window outside the Anglophone world - for their takes, as a sort of double-check on reality. (The two papers are politically quite different, but not to the bizarre extent of, say, Fox or MSNBC in the US.) It would be really lovely to be able to use this kind of forum similarly, as a window into other views.I was invited to dinner once at the home of a Bangladeshi family in California. After the dinner, the Bengali women retreated to the kitchen; the Americans and the Bengali men went to the living room, where our host specifically invited us to talk politics. His suggested topic was economic protectionism. So we actually talked politics, sharing our takes on the issue, responding to each other, reasoning from what history and economics we knew . In the sort of way that in a democracy, as both countries are, helps to build a thoughtful and informed electorate. In the US, for too long now, it has been considered impolite to talk politics, and we have forgotten how to do it.

You were lucky to be able to enjoy a political conversation without resorting to hatred and hysteria. Sadly though, in the USA, topics that started out as what were once considered impolite have now degraded into topics that trigger anger, hatred, and violence towards those who disagree. Very sad and very hurtful to our nation.........a nation that was built upon initial disagreement that needs to ultimately lead to a compromise in order to get anything done. To add more confusion to the issues, this makes an interesting read: "The devious art of lying by telling the truth" or "The art of spinning lies into truth". Now back to the naked hugs, cyber kisses, how is the weather, AND Dr Ola!

BTW, this also makes for interesting reading: The Psychology of Fact Checking:

Laboratory studies reveal that, when shown a video of a group of protesters, people see either a peaceful protest or an unruly mob blocking pedestrian access, depending on their sociopolitical beliefs. The world outside the lab shows similar biased perception: For example, 68 percent of Republicans consider the videotaped demonstrations in Portland, Ore., Kenosha, Wisc., and New York City to be riots, versus only 30 percent of Democrats, according to a Fox News poll released in September. Journalists and fact-checkers are human beings subject to the same psychological biases as everyone elseand their analyses of what constitute facts is affected by their own political and ideological values, resulting in what psychologists term selective perception.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-psychology-of-fact-checking1/

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RE:How many think Biden is ruining this country?

I think he has a great deal of help from a variety of democratic socialist from the Clintons to the Crew, Schumer , Pelosi and the Chi Comms.

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RE:How many think Biden is ruining this country?

I think he has a great deal of help from a variety of democratic socialist from the Clintons to the Crew, Schumer , Pelosi and the Chi Comms.

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