the term "indecent exposure "
that term has always bugged me , how can any human be deemed" indecent " by simply being in our natural state of being ? hell i know people that i consider " indecent " and they are dressed from head to toe !! just to say someone is " indecent " just because they are nude simply makes no sense !!
I agree, unfortunately, there are many areas where Puritan ideals are cultural and thus the law and then there are those that act improper or have improper intentions in their exposure. So lets load this on the list of politically correct terminologies. Maybe the politically correct term should be improper exposure?
Youve got my vote on the improper exposure. With all the variations in what is considered art and placed on prominent public display, youd think that making the change in terminology would be a breeze. Oh well...a nice thought.
Its politically dangerous to tackle the whole nudity thing but the laws need to seriously be updated. High percentages of citizens are OK but the very verbal folks make it difficult to even raise the issue. Modernization of the laws would be great. BUT I would be delighted if they were just clarified!! Try figuring out what would and would not get you in trouble in PA and MD!! Its totally up to the discretion of the officer and the judge. IMHO
in some states just being seen naked is not a crime but then they sneak in the term indecent exposure that confuses everything
most times even the cops don't seem to know if taking out your trash naked is a crime , or just bad judgment
I'd be interested in seeing how the term "indecent exposure" is defined in different legal areas. I would stipulate that the exposure has to be coupled with "indecent behavior" to have any weight.
It seems to revolve around the circumstances. If you're a naked person with people who aren't taking umbrage at your nudity, it's hard to call that indecency. If you're around people who do take umbrage, it gets trickier, because it's their reaction that's going to determine your legal status.
I understand that in England, nudity is not considered indecent in and of itself. You can go on hikes and take out the garbage and such and be protected by law. But some places like shopping malls and swimming pools and the like can and will enforce dress codes. I'd like to see that policy in my own homeland.
FullSun wrote:Heres Californias legal definition of indecent exposure. The key is willfully AND lewdlyhttps://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=314.&lawCode=PEN
It seems, then, that the issue hinges on the definition of "lewdly." Who decides if the nudity is lewd or not? What constitutes lewdness? How is " adapted to excite to vicious or lewd thoughts or acts" defined?
If I'm naked and the person looking at me has a lewd thought, does that make me guilty? Apparently so.
(It looks like subdivision 2 is aimed at cabarets, strip clubs and the like. What's weird here is that this sort of club is allowed, and lewd thoughts can run freely. As long as these clubs operate behind closed doors, though, and have some minimum admission requirements (adults only), they are allowed to operate.)
Naturlcouple might be referring to this case:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/utah-woman-fights-charge-kids-topless-home-67189872
The kids in question were actually her stepchildren. And it was the kids' biological mother that reported her.
Buchanan, 27, said she and her husband had taken off their shirts to keep their clothes from getting dusty while they hung drywall in their garage in a Salt Lake City suburb in late 2017 or early 2018
When her husbands three children, ages 9 through 13, walked in, she explained she considers herself a feminist and wanted to make a point that everybody should be fine with walking around their house or elsewhere with skin showing, her lawyers said in court documents..
It's a classic case of the biological Mom retaliating. She could have handled it privately with her ex. But she chose to "give 'em heck" instead. Over boobs.
Hey funcouple, I am laying the groundwork for a very long naked road trip. In researching the indecent exposure, public indecency, and public nudity laws of the states I've looked at so far they all prohibit public sex in all its form and they all describe illegal indecent exposure as exposing one's private parts to others with the intention to arouse the other people. With that said it seems one could drive naked as long as you avoided the chance that others could see you. I made a few long trips here with no issues just the joy of being naked.
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