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Comparison is the theft of Joy.
Well said. And why are comparisons always against porn stars, models and other celebrities or the fattest ugliest Walmartians in the world? Why do we see our health as being as sick as our neighbors? Why can't we compare our selves with our best and worst selves and find a happy medium? Nudism is a great teacher for living in the joy of this body at this time in this place. Now if only nudist resorts were as non-discriminatory about gender as they are about pants, they'd be worth a visit!

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I believe that comparison is part of being human. We compare in so many areas of life that I could not mention all of them. Whether it be possessions, thoughts, ideals, or beliefs, we compare ours to those we have some kind of contacts with. So if it is natural to compare my car to your car or even the car we did not buy, or the thought that my brand is better, the ideal that the fuel I use is more environmental friendly, or the belief that my model is better, it just comes naturally to us that my body is in better or worse shape than anothers. My body is in worse shape than many celebrities my age and for that I do not care. My body is also in worse shape than it was fifty years ago and I struggle to keep it from getting worse. I am not winning. We compare hundreds of times each day, but we obsess over just a few.

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Our culture tells us what to compare. I used to live in San Francisco, but occasionally drive to Los Angeles to work. One trip was to a meeting with a dozen or two colleagues down there. When the meeting adjourned, they - all men - walked into the parking lot and began looking at, and commenting on, one anothers' cars. That simply would never have happened in San Francisco. To me, it was weird bordering on rude; I simply didn't point out that my car was the cheapest-available Chevy we were standing next to, and lingered until most of them had driven away. We may take note of cars, or of bodies, but our culture tells us what's important to compare.

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NudeRunner817 wrote:
Comparison is the theft of Joy. If you are comparing your body to that of porn stars you are going to be dissatisfied with yourself for sure. If you think everyone is shredded with a 10 inch penis because the only naked bodies you have seen are in porn, a trip to the closest nudist resort will cure that image.

My point exactly. But maybe that guy with the normal penis and physique won't ever go to a nudist resort or nude beach in the first place, because porn has made him ashamed to show his body.

And, come to think of it, that goes for women, too. A woman with belly fat or sagging breasts has been struggling to conceal those features with shapewear and bras all her life. To dispense with those and show herself as she is may be hard enough even in the clothed world; it might be unthinkable for her to be seen naked at a nude event. But porn may not be as much of an influence.

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....maybe that guy with the normal penis and physique won't ever go to a nudist resort or nude beach in the first place, because porn has made him ashamed to show his body. And, come to think of it, that goes for women, too.

Religions at their good core say love people and use things. Media and the consumerism which drives it essentially tell us to use people and to love things. That makes comparison challenging.

I like to compare what is important to me and under my control. The size of breasts or penises along with other "beauty" ideals are basically set at birth and say very little about a person. On the other hand, we all have a lot more influence on our health and fitness than most of us own. It seems like the fatter we Americans get, the more we obsess over things like SUVs, smartphones, nails and hair.

In other words, I won't compare my average penis with a porn star's, nor will I try to photoshop my reality like the media is somehow able to, getting back molars to shine like florescent lights. Instead I choose self-compassion. However, I don't apply body acceptance to justify making poor decisions that limit my health and lifestyle options as I age. Media sells freedom, but responsibility defines the foundation of how we are free and what our limits are.

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StoneAndy;

As far as penis size is concerned, the purpose of a penis is to get erect and deliver sperm in a vagina so one or more can swim, find the ovum(s), fertilize it/them, and create human being(s). The average virginal or near virginal vagina is smaller than all but a very small penis. The first few times a wife and husband have intercourse, he may not be able to get an average size penis in due to the vagina being too tight and the pain to her. If the woman and man are married, the muscles of her vagina will learn to flex to the size of his penis over time and repeated practice is the key. If he starts with too big of a penis, her pain may be too great for quite a while, which will lessen the frequency, and actually be a hindrance. 2,000 years ago penises that are too big were seen as abnormal as too small.

At the same time, if she does get pregnant and give birth vaginally, the head and shoulders of the baby that must emerge are far larger than any penis.

Therefore, if the male is interested in the sex being part of a long term relationship, a large penis offers no advantages.

Males and Females face the competition with the ideal body. For females, the need to match the models on media inspires all kinds of eating disorders. For males, the same need to also match the images including the "Wash Board" abs is leading to a growing number of eating disorders also.

When we were growing up, magazines, television, and movies were the main purveyors of body image. Today, online media that is 24/7 along with social media comparison is 24/7. The pressure on boys and girls to conform to unhealthy body images is deadly. In the testimoy before the senate from the Facebook wistle blower, she indicated that Facebook is aware of this problem and that it leads to eating disorders and suicides for boys and girls. Everything we have said about porn would apply to these media also.

Candidly, that is one of the reasons we both have practiced having our sons with us at naked venues together. They see a lot of naked male bodies of different ages and are able to know that healthy naked male bodies come in a variety of shapes and sizes.

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;Therefore, if the male is interested in the sex being part of a long term relationship, a large penis offers no advantages.


Some may call this an excuse, but Im not that shallow.

(If the male.)
As it totally disregards a womans view it is slightly misogynistic.

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I can only speak for my personal view. I represent no other individuals regardless of gender.

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When CULTure dictates what goes on in the privacy & sanctity of one's mind; its not a culture of HEALTH but DIS.ease.

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As a parent one can assume that kids find access to porn earlier than we'd like to think. So the onus is on us as parents to expose our children to a healthier, balanced and more realistic view of nudity, particularly in a setting not defined by sexuality. Nudism should be a wonderful opportunity for kids to understand that adults have real bodies like their parents and that they can be comfortable with their bodies as they develop and mature.When resorts discriminate against single parents, their children - a good 50% of children today - don't have the opportunity to get exposed to a healthy view of adult nudity. Who will be around to frequent the resorts in 20 years? Porn 1 - Nudism 0.

This is a really important point. Thank you for sharing. Some resort folks really need to rethink their business model and update for todays reality

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