Christian Naturists
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A question to MATURE Christians
Return to DiscussionsI just want to ask the opinion of mature Christians in here. Well, sometimes I am having trouble if being in this site (and being nude) is right or wrong. A voice in me says that it's ok, but another says that it is not.
Also, as a Christian and a young adult, I am struggling with masturbation. Any thoughts about this?
Weaker people need to get a grip on them selves by seeing more and more naked bodies, see it works much like a hospital worker who helps nurses bath people, after seeing naked body after naked body the weaker become much stronger. You never see doctors or nurses looking at porn magazines of naked bodies, it reminds them of work. Telling the world to shelter your eyes (or someone else's eyes) is putting the cart in front of the caribou.
You make a good point Pearl. Trying nudism(is that a word?) has improved my walk with God.
I haven't read every single post in this thread so my thoughts were probably already addressed. My apologies if I'm repeating.
I think nudism falls under Christian liberties as Paul writes about in his letters to the early churches. We as believers should conduct ourselves in such a way as to not cause a weaker brother or sister in Jesus to stumble in their walk. I go to a fairly strict doctrinal church but they have eased up a bit on a few minor things like drinking socially used to get you denied church membership. Nudism would definitely get me canned on the membership rolls. LOL Especially since I used to be in a position of leadership that would create quite a stir.
Creating problems is one thing believers should try to avoid. If a conflict does erupt the New Testament is very clear on how to resolve it.
Nudism obviously isn't for everybody. That is very understandable but if handled in the wrong way can lead to a sinful lifestyle. Its still something you don't want to mention at the next Church Potluck but if you have a like minded friend in the congregation you're comfortable with then chat about it. As soon as another fellow believer walks up, cease the topic.
When the Body of Jesus meets together our main focus should be unity in prayer, worship, and fellowship.
Nudity is natural as is sexual desire. The funny this is that you don't have to be nude for someone to desire you sexually.
I think that it is important to remember that America was founded by religious separatist who believed that the church of England was not strict enough. I think they believed that covering up would remove the sexual temptation between the sexes. Like some societies that cover their women from head to toe thinking that men would not find them sexy. I don't think that it has worked. A man would still have sex with that women given the opportunity not caring what she looks like.
The failure of the cover up practice has led to men creating things like chastity belts or even sewing labia together to keep a man from penetrating.
I will admit that in my younger years seeing a nude woman would cause an erection. I have learned to separate nudity from sex. Perhaps if I was raised a nudist, I would have separated the 2 long ago.
Know that God knows your heart. We have all sinned and come short of the Glory of God. It is because of Christ and His Sacrifice that we presented to the Father clean and sin free. If you believe in Christ and his sacrifice then there is nothing that can separate us from the Love of God.
Be Blessed
Also, as a Christian and a young adult, I am struggling with masturbation. Any thoughts about this?
I will offer what was offered to me years ago. I am not a Greek scholar, so I have not been able to verify it first hand, but:
I am told that the Greek word translated as "woman" can also mean "wife," and that the Greek word translated as "Lust" can also mean "covet." So where we are usually told about "Looking at a woman and lusting after her," could have been intended instead to mean "Looking at a wife and coveting her." That is, Jesus was simply reminding his listeners that they already knew the commandment, "Thou shalt not cover thy neighbor's wife."
Also, you may find it useful to know that pornography is not necessary for masturbation. You can focus on your body, what sensations it likes, and find release that way. The sex drive is one of those basic biological drives that we cannot turn off. Only a relatively few men are really capable of celibacy. But because the sex drive is so basic, those who would enslave men with religion find it an easy target for shame.
obviously not wrong to be nude by God's word or any logic. Is wrong to exercise lust in the wrong way. As for masturbation, talk to God about it, and accept His answer. Don't stop asking until you get the answer. I did and got an unmistakable answer. But we have to approach it with an open mind, God isn't likely to answer if He knows we've already made up our minds and aren't willing to change. But it's a really tough one to deal with once it becomes a habit. Usually can't be done in our own strength. At least I can't, it's too easy to do and the drive to do it is too strong. It seems everyone has something in their life that is wrong and is impossible to change on their own. That's the carnal nature we get from our sinful heritage. With most of us it's something that's not illegal by mans laws, but when it is, those people usually end up in and out of prison or in permanently. (unless they're rich enough to pay for someone else to do their dirty work, then it's entirely up to God to repay for their evil, which he will do in time)
But masturbation feeds lust and lust drives masturbation, and it keeps creeping into more corruption unless checked. I was seeing that move into more corruption pretty badly until I had to kind of give up trying and asked God to clean up my mind. He did, and drew me into naturism to help out, because getting used to seeing nude people in everyday life helps to train our mind to not lust at the sight of nude bodies, including our own. Most of my lust was directed inward and it helped a lot to just be nude every day all day day after day, get so used to it I'd almost forget I was nude. But I can only do that when working out in the woods in decent weather, since society doesn't accept it. I hope to set things up where I can work nude a lot more in greenhouse work. But that will take my own greenhouse where I and my naturist friends are the only ones generally working. Probably my 3rd unit. 1st one probably won't be ready to run till a year from now the way things are going.
Being a christian goes beyond the physical, it is a spiritual matter. I do not believe God cares if someone is a nudist, that's how he made us. Our society mandates clothing, but it is also a matter of protection from the elements when needed. I find that small children have no qualms about being nude, until taught societal standards. As for masturbation, it is preferable to pre-marital sex. God gave humans a sex drive, and the male body produces sperm, ejaculation is required to keep your prostrate healthy. He also designed men to get "turned on" by erotic thoughts. What you think about is not a sin, it's what you dwell and obsess over that are an issue. All things in moderation.