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The labia and social nudism

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I understand that this group is mostly dedicated to the esthetics of the labia...but I think there's also a philosophical aspect worth bringing up.

My first wife started out "reluctant." And impressionable. The first nudists we met and befriended were "traditionalists"; which meant they adhered to a pretty strict interpretation of nudist etiquette. Which included female posture. The idea behind "ladylike posture" is that women should sit/lay with their legs crossed/closed. Because otherwise the labia might show; and that wouldn't be "ladylike" or "proper." Like I said: my wife was impressionable at the time; and when she heard this, she took it to mean that's how all nudist women should sit/lay - whenever in a social nudist environment.

And so she applied that concept in subsequent nudist outings. Fairly quickly, she started finding it impractical, if not downright uncomfortable. Sweat would accumulate between her thighs; and she constantly felt self-conscious about her posture. And then one day...she was lying down in a lounge chair at the resort one day, legs "glued at the knees"; and she tried getting up without parting her legs. What happened next was a tumble. As she started falling sideways I was lucky enough to see it coming; and I managed to grab her before she hit the ground. Yes; that literally happened. Up to then I hadn't really said anything because of her shyness and I didn't want her to feel self-conscious. I told her that she really didn't need to take this "ladylike posture" thing so literally. She agreed to the fact that it actually didn't really work for her.
That was the beginning.

Soon after that we went to hang out with some nudist friends at their home. There, the situation was much more relaxed, with everyone sitting in whatever posture was comfortable. My wife noticed and started wondering about the whole "ladylike posture"; because if nudism was supposed to be about relaxation, freedom and openness, then why such a hang-up about the female labia? I think she must have discussed it with other nudist women (non-traditionalists); because after that she was clearly "done" with posture etiquette.

One of the first things she did afterwards was shave. I think she'd noticed other women being shaved, liked the idea; but thought it might make her labia too visible. So I was surprised when she came out, prior to our next resort trip, completely shaved. I was also surprised when we got to the resort pool area and she requested we sit by the pool instead of the usual "back of the pool area." We picked some lounge chairs, I reclined and rested while my wife took out a book and started reading. It was a short while later that I realized that not only was she not lying with her legs "glued at the knees", but she was actually reclining with one leg propped up and the other dangling on the side of the chair. I was a bit taken aback this total change in attitude; so I turned to her and asked her if she was aware that from that position, everyone could see her labia. And she just shrugged her shoulders and said in her stern voice: "if anyone has a problem with it they can look away...or maybe they don't really "get" social nudity." I immediately felt stupid for even bringing that up. And that's when I realized my wife was making a statement: she wasn't going to let anyone dictate to her what parts of her body was "good enough" to be seen anymore. And then I was quite proud of her for expressing herself so honestly and embracing the concept of "nothing to hide." She was well aware that seeing her labia might be "seen" differently by people; and she made the decision to simply not care. If she was socializing and was comfortable sitting in a position that might make her labia clearly visible, then her comfort was what mattered most to her - rather than some "backwards" idea that the sight of her labia was somehow "unladylike."

That was many years ago and the traditional "ladylike posture" notion is fast disappearing. These days, with the "shaving trend" and women going for the "100% tanned everywhere" look, women are much more comfortable with their labia being "exposed." But back then, it was both challenging and fun to see my wife reject the notion of "ladylike posture" and totally embrace being "fully naked", labia and all.

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RE:The labia and social nudism

Yes it's all natural, I always said if you haven't seen it by now you ain't ever gonna see itSome don't know the differences between Porn and a naturalist just being simply naked and enjoying this wonderful way of living

A "naturalist" is completely different than a "naturist." Though your sentence is correct, "differences between Porn and a naturalist", it's not following the context of the thread. Why not use the correct term instead of using a term that doesn't coincide with the lifestyle we live?

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When we started out in social nudism some 26+ years ago, my wife sat "properly" and tried to keep her legs closed to minimize vaginal area and labia exposure to those around her. Soon, she saw other women that sat comfortably and she followed suit. We used to get in some discussions about the way she got up off a lounge chair and was so afraid to expose labia, vaginal area as well as anal area. She was going to hurt herself and her back by trying to do some contortionist bending and maneuvering so's not to expose herself. That ended quickly and she sits comfortably in social nudist situations just like she sits at home.

There is a definite difference between spread eagle poses and men and women sitting comfortably. THERE IS a contradiction with photos on this site. There is a female member here that gets away with porno type poses and has posted dozens, if not hundreds. Her photos remain while others are deleted that are nowhere near a sexually explicit as that female member's photos. It's all in who you know, I gather!

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There is a female member here that gets away with porno type poses and has posted dozens, if not hundreds. Her photos remain while others are deleted that are nowhere near a sexually explicit as that female member's photos. It's all in who you know, I gather!

I know exactly who you are referring to. Nobody poses that way normally and why she gets away with it is beyond me.

I think you should sit or lay like you would with a bathing suit on. If that means you are a little exposed then you are.

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I think you should sit or lay like you would with a bathing suit on. If that means you are a little exposed then you are.

Exactly! I told my wife that she needs to be as comfortable at the beach, club or resorts as she is at home. It took her a while but she'd dialed in now. The beach is one place where my wife still is conscientious about how and how much she's parting her legs. There are just too many jagoffs at the beach that make social nudism for women uncomfortable.

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One of the aspects of nudism that I have found is the "see and be seen" thing. A nudist quite simply should expect to be seen. And at the same time, you can expect to see what is there. Nothing wrong with that.

If someone wants to look--let them. If you want to see---then look. Not a bid deal

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