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Seems to me TN would benefit from an affiliation with an established organization like AANR or TNS, a purging of inactive accounts and cleaning up the gallery. Since naturism is about being free, being certified and full frontal with face should be a requirement and non-issue. Generally suffering from a lack of legitimacy and leadership.

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Seems to me TN would benefit from an affiliation with an established organization like AANR or TNS, a purging of inactive accounts and cleaning up the gallery. Since naturism is about being free, being certified and full frontal with face should be a requirement and non-issue. Generally suffering from a lack of legitimacy and leadership.

I agree with you, but sharing a scan of my driver's license is.

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Respectfully, I just want to say I have a few ideas, but I am not saying they will work.

Here is what I think will work:

1. Make complete "real" Location (City or town, ADMIN. Division or State or Province area, then Nation Country Area) mandatory (for the immediate time now and forever)

2. Make it a paid website or lose the paywall, don't do the "little bit of paywall" attitude.

3. If making it a free website, so do not make anyone able to use the site unless proven 18 or up and certified by or "Digital ID" or with "Digitized ID" with a mandatory "location"

4. If making it a non-free only paid members paywalled website, mandate

A) All Users Pay and provide a billing address that is the only option for the location

B) mandate all users Get Certified

and

C) mandate that all certification either is by ID submitted by the users or some other form of ID so as to comply with regulations,

or else to go by the suggestion to get a substitute for Passport or Real ID either by

(a) not requiring Photo ID but other proof of age verification like providing a birth date and verifying it with cryptographic zero-knowledge proof, among other forms, including using Zilch framework for Zero-Knowledge proofs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof

or

(b) require some form of credit card verification system, such as entering credit card information.

I do not have all the answers, there are several alternatives to these ones that are out there. One could do Photo ID, one could try to do it without photo ID. Some ideas work better than others and it is not my job to decide these choices for the community.

I really wish websites like this could organize well and get rid of the trouble with bots. A site that works similar to this could help spread naturism and social nudism, but not many sites like this exist, and many of the ones that do do not have reach. If this site were to work and get popular, which has not happened, it would be good, but I do not see it happening nor attitudes changing as a result of increased awareness for naturism.

I just could only want for the fakes could just get flagged and blocked by existing users. People need to be aware of how to spot fakes in the mean time. It really saddens me that TN is getting run down right now.

I hope the moderators can listen, because a lot of us of us are bothered. I wish the Admins would listen too, but they must be so busy I think with different things other than listening to users. (trying not to say anything to get me in hot water.)

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If you criticize someone's credentials or question their authenticity or call them a fake, you will be banned. Been there. A simple straight line purge of all members not logged in in 10 years and a lot of problems disappear.

How so?

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But isn't it comforting to know you CAN take it with you? Without purging of accounts, I might be getting friend requests a hundred years from now! :)

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yes this site is slowly dying

The chat room used to get into the 400s to 500s, and now it seldom gets above 350

Cleaning up this site would be so very easy, but it seems the owners have no interest in doing that.

I really enjoy this site and hate to see it in decline. Hope they decide to make this site good again.
I would love to help

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If you criticize someone's credentials or question their authenticity or call them a fake, you will be banned. Been there. A simple straight line purge of all members not logged in in 10 years and a lot of problems disappear.How so?

YES this site NEEDS a major purge. All none lifetime paid members that havent logged in for 3 years should be deleted unless they are still paying monthly as well.

Would be so easy to start making this site good again.

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This site has people listed who have not logged on for over 10 years or more. I complained that doing a search these ghosts appear and anyone who has not logged in in the past two years should be deleted . It seems that True want the 500,000 plus members for the masthead even though the majority have no logged in for yearsPerhaps I'm missing something, what difference does it make to you, me, or the man on the moon if there are members who have not logged on for years? I don't see how it effects me in the slightest way and I certainly don't care about the issue.Do I wish that 100% of the members were certified and paid? Absofreakinglutely! If everyone was paid, instead of being a freeloader, then the site owners would have the capital to invest in modernizing and improving the site. Requiring payment and certification would certainly eliminate the fakes.As an active, paid but not certified member, I believe that if certification is to be required there needs to be a route to certification that does not require uploading a copy of the front and back of your driver's license.I don't disagree, but how do we prove we are who we say and we are "of age" it is difficult without official documentation of some sort? They can't just take our word for it.Paying would help stop some fakes, certainly the bot generated accounts but not all, who would no doubt see the cost as investment against future income.If anyone has an idea how to prove age and identities without loading docs, please do say.Richie

I would rather upload my birth certificate than my driver's license.

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Thank you for sharing this. I felt a wave of sadness reading it, not just for the departure of a valued member, but for the quiet fading of what this space used to represent.

I'm newer than some, but what drew me here wasnt attention or numbers it was the heart of true nudism: freedom, trust, body acceptance, and meaningful connection. Lately, Ive seen too many profiles that seem disconnected from that spirit. The shift is subtle, but real.

Your words reminded me of why I joined in the first place and why I still log in. Its up to each of us to hold space for what we do want here. To nudge, to speak up, to post more intentionally, and to support the real ones still showing up.

I dont have a master plan, but Im in. Lets preserve the kind of community where stories matter, kindness counts, and nudism isnt a costume for other motives.

Anyone else feeling this? I'd love to connect with others who care about the deeper meaning of this lifestyle.

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I genuinely want for the administrators of the website to share in the vision that many of us have.

This website meant a lot earlier to many more people, but with the changes to the internet in the USA and in the majority of nations in the world, if not the whole rest of the world, challenges are on the horizons.

The internet feels so much less safe with the forced age restrictions. Necessary in some people's minds, but they are not absolutely neccessary and are not the answer that guarantees the maintenance of the balance between privacy and security.

Zero-Knowledge proofs are able to work, should one find the ability to program them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof

For reference, Wikipedia and the Wikimedia foundation are suing the UK Government over the mandated age-verification system forced onto users of Wikipedia by the website at the behest of the UK government.

Zero-Knowledge Proofs prove the same facts needed to be "verified" with "age verification systems" on the internet without invading on one's personal identity.

For real though, look at what happened to the Tea app!

Look at how bad it could be with that, and just imagine that to any website where you really do not know the founders of the website.

That is how I feel it really is that bad. I think this requires heavy assessment of where any website is inside the world.

Some say tea "is just the worst-case scenario."

I really think people need to not trust Google anymore at the surface level without at least a grain of salt. Ideally, no website should incorporate anything from Google, YouTube, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook, Netflix, Hulu, ABC NBC CNN Warner-HBO-Discovery Verizon, or A.T.&T. or T. Mobile or Yahoo, Corporations. Not from any of those specifically, And they should not incorporate the share button from any of those companies or their "platforms."

Any website letting cookies be baked into the system really needs to change the website to a basic level to prevent cookies from scraping and stealing your web content automatically.

That is what I feel really is going on with the internet right now.

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