Fox news recruits a 12 yo to be fair and balanced

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  DanandJanette

  May 29, 2011

  [quote]My apologies DanandJanette, I will try to explain as best I can without using the quote on quote function, I am sure people can go back if they are interested. By you capitalising (we use s's not z's) the word do it gave the impression you were making a supercilious statement rather than asking a question. I found this a little patronising. I then drew a very long bow to suggest that, like is often joked about regarding North Americans, that they are so wrapped up in their own continent that they have been known to mistake Australia (where I come from) with Austria. Obviously suggesting someone thinking this way is a very patronising statement. In hindsight it was too obscure and not very well thought out, I apologise. I do know Tina Fey is responsible for the infamous "from my house" quote and I should of made you aware of this. Just for 100% clarity, Sarah Palin's actual quote was "They're our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska." she made this quote whilst highlighting her foreign policy credentials - just in case you didn't think I knew. There was nothing asinine in that one. I hope this removes some confusion. Now let's get back on topic, my apologies to everyone for steering us of course[/quote]   Apologies and explaination accepted. Peace.

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  tonyboothAutor original

  May 30, 2011

  [quote][quote]... climate change deniers ...[/quote]  And we were doing so well, guy. Jeez Leweez. One must look with utter contempt at any person who equates citing solid scientific evidence against anthropogenic global warming with denying the Nazi holocaust. That IS what the word "denier" is implying. It is a sign of utter desperation when the Gorebots are forced to resort to vicious, loathsome slanders to try to silence their opponents and censor the facts. • Based on the diameter of Earth plus the atmosphere, 8526 miles, the sun is blasting our planet 24/7/365 with 207,017,158 gigawatts of continuous energy. • Solar activity is the primary, if not the only, driver of climate change on Earth (and on Mars, where there are no SUVs, barbecues and incandescent bulbs). • Earth's climate has been changing since climate began on Earth. • Earth's climate has been both hotter and colder than it is now. • Mankind's contribution to all those historical climate changes was exactly zero. • Greenland, now largely covered by ice, was named because at the time of the Norse explorers, it was a lush, fertile land, ideal for farming. • Based on that fact, Earth was considerably warmer then than it is now. • The Medieval Warm Period (~ 800-1300) described above was not caused by humans.  • The Little Ice Age (~ 1400-1900) that followed it also was not caused by humans. • There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Earth's present climate is ideal. • Far from being a dangerous gas, carbon dioxide is totally natural, and is absolutely necessary for plant life. • CO2 levels on Earth have been much higher than they are now, with the concomitant abundance of plant life. • There is absolutely no evidence to support the frivolous notion that humans CAN affect global climate. • Rather than spending trillions of dollars on an utterly quixotic quest to stop global climate change, just spend 1% as much to prepare for it. • Burn AlBore in effigy.[/quote] http://www.newscorp.com/energy/index.html

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  Membro

  May 31, 2011

  It is unfortunate, Gore.  Due to his being a former Presidential Candidate, the issue of Global Warming became a popular press issue.  That is, Global Warming became a politcal issue.  Not being an expert in this field of science, though, I listen to the experts in those fields of science who can share educated opinions.  The vast majority support the two-fold issue: Global warming is real (greater than 90%), and that it is product of industry (greater than 80%).  That the industrial world has listened as well and has accepted the principal of global warming  (that it is a man-made, and therefore, correctable) and is trying to find ways to correct it, that is pretty persuasive.

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• ME

  Membro

  May 31, 2011

  You begin with the statement, it is a liberal agenda. Yes, there
  are reputable scientist who differ with the idea of global warming; its
  science.  (Einstein disagreed with certain principals of quantum
  theory, which are now held as true).  Still, the vast majority of
  experts (we are talking greater than 80% here) see the data and agree.
  There is a world wide effort to stem those factors that are leading to a
  perceived global warming. It is not reasonable to believe that these
  80% of scientists, and the rest of the industrial world, are somehow
  associated with the political left, or a liberal agenda.

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  Membro

  May 31, 2011

  Last week, five independent investigationsclearedthe scientists involved in the Climategate scandal from allegations that they had tampered with their research in order to prove global warming. The verdict is a major victory for environmentalists and a wake up call for climate change skeptics. . This from the popular press, Bruce. as was the initial coverage of Climategate.  You cannot accept as fact, things read in the popular press.  They have their own agenda.  Now, perhaps we should start to wonder at the source of Climategate...who might that have been?  And why would they perpetrate such a lie?

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  tonyboothAutor original

  Jun 1, 2011

  [quote][quote]You begin with the statement, it is a liberal agenda. Yes, there are reputable scientist who differ with the idea of global warming; its science.  (Einstein disagreed with certain principals of quantum theory, which are now held as true).  Still, the vast majority of experts (we are talking greater than 80% here) see the data and agree.   There is a world wide effort to stem those factors that are leading to a perceived global warming. It is not reasonable to believe that these 80% of scientists, and the rest of the industrial world, are somehow associated with the political left, or a liberal agenda.[/quote]      I am not implying it is some grand worldwide conspiracy. More of a herd mentality within the scientific community which is decidedly liberal. Much like the herd mentality that says the poor are incapable of success without a lifetime of government assistance.  At one time, more than 80% of the scientists thought that the world was flat. During development of nuclear weapons, some scientists were afraid that a nuclear explosion would ignite the atmosphere. When you consider the "climategate" scandal was about some of the "most respected" scientists falsifying and ignoring data, it is not reasonable to accept their findings. The left latched onto their findings and profited from it at great expense to "the little people". Like I have said before, we should work to keep a clean environment, but not at the expense of the poor.[/quote] This bullshit liberal bias anlalysis, I thought this was even beneath you. Bruce accept the science for once, its not a liberal conspiciary. If Al Gore puts you off ignore that put it aside. This is just paranoid nonsense. It is the Catholic church that was the enemy of science for many centuries because it threatened their control and showed a literal account was merely allegorical not literal. I suppose Bruce would support Creationism being taught at schools or the other rubbish. Accept the fact that 80% of scientists have great concerns and are urging action. Not everything has to be seen through a prism of political ideology. It says more about your paranonia than any kind of dispassionate response. http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.com/2011/05/book-reviews-of-climate-change-denial.html http://hot-topic.co.nz/climate-change-denial-heads-in-the-sand/

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  tonyboothAutor original

  Jun 1, 2011

  [quote]...how the liberal mainstream media are "grinding their teeth" chasing her into the great unknown. Too funny!  Maybe they'll learn to act like adults next time around. No, probably not.http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/05/sarah-palin-one-nation-.html?cid=6a00d8341c630a53ef015432b02d50970c[/quote]  I did laugh at the coverage but Bruce ignores that people on Fox have devoted vast amount of coverage to this, as I am typing BoR will interview Dick Morris, as Bill baby observed yesterday the independents won't vote for her so she is just spruicking her popularity with no serious intent. Whilst poor old Hannity was creaming his pants that his vision of common sense would ride triumphant into the White House. Dick Morris calls it ADD! too hilarious, she knows she cannot win. Too much personal baggage!!!

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  Membro

  Jun 2, 2011

  Interesting edit to my comment, Bruce.  Don't want to address the other side of the political agenda question?  No?  Didn't think so.

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