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May 30, 2026I want to share [url][link]/link/b202df7c8dc4f5db/aHR0cHM6Ly90aGVhbmFyY2hpc3RsaWJyYXJ5Lm9yZy9saWJyYXJ5L2VtaWxlLWFybWFuZC1yZXZvbHV0aW9uYXJ5LW51ZGlzbQ%3D%3D[/link]"Revolutionary Nudism"[/url] by French anarchist Emile Armand.
E. Armand writes:
"...nudism is, individually and collectively, among the most potent means of emancipation. It seems to us to be something else entirely than a hygienic fitness exercise or a naturist renewal. For us, nudism is a revolutionary demand. Revolutionary in a triple sense: affirmation, protest, liberation."
To be naked is to be treated as a fellow human being equal to all others, rather than as someone whose power and respect is demanded from others because they happen to wear a particular form of clothing.
"Let us imagine the general, the bishop, the ambassador, the academic, the prison guard, the warden naked. What would be left of their prestige, of the authority delegated to them? The rulers know this well, and this is not the least of the motives for their hostility to nudism."
I think this article makes for valuable reading and insight into nudism being notjustas a personal comfort choice or a way to feel more connected to nature and others - though such reasons are absolutely valid and worth recognizing and respecting - but also as a revolutionary symbol that questions the true value of someone's authority or assertion for what is to be considered "acceptable" or "obscene" or "harmful", that we are told to respect because they have a badge or suit on them.
It's only a few paragraphs, so go read it.
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- MEMembreMay 31, 2026
What an interesting insight. I agree with the view of total or highest level of emancipation ideology.
But I draw the line on clothing being tools of aggression. The book "Lord of the flies" defines why we as a community have to elect or promote people to certain roles. Without order we have disorder. The need for the roles of 'aggression' are bought about by our own behaviour whether we are clothed or not.
You only have to observe the behaviour of many males at or near CO beaches to understand that even the nude community, and even if the entire population was nude, to understand why rules and people to enforce them would be and is entirely necessary.
RéagirRépondre - MEMembreJun 1, 2026[quote]What an interesting insight. I agree with the view of total or highest level of emancipation ideology.But I draw the line on clothing being tools of aggression. The book "Lord of the flies" defines why we as a community have to elect or promote people to certain roles. Without order we have disorder. The need for the roles of 'aggression' are bought about by our own behaviour whether we are clothed or not.You only have to observe the behaviour of many males at or near CO beaches to understand that even the nude community, and even if the entire population was nude, to understand why rules and people to enforce them would be and is entirely necessary. Yes. Stephene Deschenes, the host of the Bare Oaks' "Naturist Living Show," often tries to point out that "behavior is the same, whether you are clothed or not." That is him telling the truth certainly. People's individual aggression is not the reason we need to wear clothes. We have nothing to lose by shedding clothing, all to gain by shedding clothing. Remember, I said "oppression" and not "aggression" in that sentence. The main point is simply that the oppression is the same, whether you are clothed or nude, meaning that clothes are just a veil often used by non-nudists to cover-up their own behavior through social masking. And their aggresion usually is the same aggression clothed or not, every single time, every single day. Yes, clothing makes it easier to hide their beliefs and behavior than to be open and transparent. We have nothing to lose being nudists, we have everything to gain by being nudists. The police have all the power to surveill and oppress us, but we excuse it by letting them hide what they believe behind authority. Their authority is a vehicle of oppression, and they are eroding the first amendment federally and in the states in government in the United States of America. That is what I specifically am talking about, the abuses of authority and the suppression of freedom and equality. That is what I always look to avoid, the oppression and repression, since that is one of the components of these bad people's aggression. I try to call that out on this website and in protest in public, when I go to protest in public areas wherever and whenever I can. Everyone should read Revolutionary Nudism by Armand. It is often said as a directive to each audience member of the Naturist Living Show Podcast from Canada, "Free Your Body Free Your Mind." I also always try, finally, to say "Get Up,Stand up, Stand up for your rights. Get up, Stand up, Don't give up the fight!" I listen to that song and a few other songs from that time as well.[/quote] Hi Vince - you did say oppression whereas I said aggression. I guess when you consider the unform of an army it could have the shift from oppression to aggression. The fundamental reasons we have armies is to protect 'what we have' . They were first formed tribally around the production of food sources. Farming and storing grain especially. But the shift came over the last six centuries or so to using the army to attain, aggressively, what other people have. Thats a very long way of saying that a behaviour by a society (farming and storing food) created yet another need (an armed force) and again that need would be warranted even if the entire population was nude. After all there are still indigenous peoples around the world that live fundamentally nude and they still have the need for rules and some sense of order and authority. I find way too many people on here have this ultrasonic belief that living nude will solve everything.RéagirRépondre
- MEMembreJun 8, 2026
Ya Say Ya Want a Revoluion
RéagirRépondre - MEMembreAuteur d'origineJun 16, 2026[quote]What an interesting insight. I agree with the view of total or highest level of emancipation ideology. But I draw the line on clothing being tools of aggression. The book "Lord of the flies" defines why we as a community have to elect or promote people to certain roles. Without order we have disorder. The need for the roles of 'aggression' are bought about by our own behaviour whether we are clothed or not. You only have to observe the behaviour of many males at or near CO beaches to understand that even the nude community, and even if the entire population was nude, to understand why rules and people to enforce them would be and is entirely necessary.[/quote] Lord of the Flies is afictionalstory, not an analysis of real world occurrences or trends. You can write any fictional story where characters do anything and claim it speaks to some aspect of human behavior, but that does not make it true or reasonable whatsoever. Why you thought it was at all relevant to bring it up here is beyond me. Also, anarchy doesn't at all mean "no rules," "disorder" and "chaos," that's a deliberate distortion perpetuated by the very institutions threatened by idea that we don't need to submit to their "authority."RéagirRépondre