RE:Clothing Optional or Clothing Not Allowed??? Any Preferance? .

It's just our opinion but clothing optional clubs and resorts were meant to be a place to adjust to nudism, not bring your textile lifestyle into the nudist lifestyle. Nudists already know how and when to wear clothes. It's time for the textiles to learn the same. If the can't or won't, then please don't ruin another nudist venue for the rest of us.

I'm glad you brought up this point (with which I agree completely).

There is a category of people I call "accompanying but nudity-avoidant S/O's"; which is different from "newbies", as a consistent life style choice. It often goes a little something like this: the male (or sometimes female) is a nudist, and the S/O is "along for the ride"; although is not really "keen" on "getting around" naked there. So the sarong or clothes stay on most of the time. In a situation like Lake Como, which has decided to transition from "clothing-optional" to "nude everywhere", the "accompanying but nudity-avoidant S/O" might decide this is no longer a "viable option" for him/her. Thus reducing access for the nudist partner.

One could sympathize with the situation; especially when there are strong psychological reasons why the S/O chooses to avoid being seen naked by anyone and everyone. But the question is not just what works best for the couple/family; but also how it affects the nudist community. One might say: "I don't care, I go to a C/O resort and my S/O has a right there to cover up as he/she wishes." But I would argue that openly expressing "body-shame" will have an effect on the nudist environment. As I mentioned before, my then-newbie wife and I started at C/O resorts; and her seeing people covering up outside the pool area made her too self-conscious to venture outside the pool area naked. Which in turn probably prompted others to choose to cover up as well.

So what to do? I don't have an answer. It's up to each individual to consider their "impact" on the nudist community. Personally, I was well aware of it and had plenty of discussions with my wife. If I had felt that my wife was too modest for social nudity and she'd fall into that category; I probably would have quit nudism. Luckily, she expressed, even at the beginning, that staying nude was "definitely on the table"; but needed some time to "acclimate" first. So we worked on it together; and eventually found that going to a "nude-obligatory" resort was the key to her "getting there." And it makes me happy to know that her "impact" on the nudist community is a positive one; as her confidence being socially nude also serves as motivation and inspiration to others, rather than the opposite.

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I agree with nudity.

My wife is Nude Tolerant. We frequent C/O hot springs. She like to see if there are other women her age and size before she will go completely nude there. She will go topless all the time but if they are younger Hard Bodies, she will not go nude.

When she accompanies me to my club, she will wear a sarong unless she is in the hot tub where nudity is required.

She doesnt mind being nude around people she thinks she will never see again but is worried that someone we know will see is.

I prefer nude required but like clothing optional so long as I can be nude and no one cares.

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I like this, my focus is what I experience not seeing others unclothed. Always struck me as odd that those who profess to be free and comfortable without clothes get worries about being around others in clothes. If they are not gawking and I am allowed to be naked that is all that matters. The number of places to enjoy social nudity are decreasing every day it seems at least in US why exclude people who arent fully there yet. Seems like we only create a naked sect.

Just watched a documentary about the world's first naturist resort in France. It was interesting that for most everyone from people who had been going there for a long time people who grew up there in naturist families, and more recent occasional visitors the focus was not so much on everyone being naked. Rather is was the community experienced where social nudity was incidental. As one person said min a matter a fact way "My skin is my clothes"

Honestly, it doesn't matter so long as I can get naked in some place where it is accepted.

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The number of places to enjoy social nudity are decreasing every day it seems at least in US why exclude people who aren't fully there yet.

I'm curious from where this idea originates. Is this statement based on some statistics or an assumption through what little press nudism receives? Albeit true that Desantis may be coming for the nudists soon, Florida has so many places for nudism it makes one's head spin with all the flesh showing! I read about another US city legalizing toplessness for woman in parks, and a new nude beach becoming legal a couple of years ago...what is this comment based upon? If there is a source that can be cited I'd enjoy knowing what it is.

As to the bigger question in this thread, we nudists are generally a very accepting, non-judgemental group as a rule, mostly due to being constantly judged and ridiculed by the world of cloth - pointed at with disdain by those who don't understand, will never understand, or refuse to look inwardly to confront their own prejudices concerning nudism and naturism. Our acceptance of the partially- or fully-clothed among the bare works just fine in many places. At the same time, I don't feel as though nudists need to hold back about our strong opinions concerning our desire to have the preference of equality that comes with a requirement for all involved to be fully nude. If a person needs time to acclimate, take it slow and take your curiosity to a CO spot. While some are going to stay dressed the whole time they are around naked people, that point will at times bring up the question of motivation for the visit. Pressing a non-nudist forward to disrobing with a lack of compassion will likely backfire on the pushy partner.

There are a million reasons why someone has a problem with social nudity, and many of them are absolutely valid. Don't get married to someone before you know and accept their tastes and preferences. I am partnered with a woman who hates bananas - that's no deal breaker for our relationship to work. If she didn't want to be naked all the time, we wouldn't be together. Nudists married to non-nudists make me sad for them both, but love is worth fighting for and worth giving up some of the things we hold close to heart.

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love is worth fighting for and worth giving up some of the things we hold close to heart.
I got married long before I was interested in social nudism. My wife doesn't follow my interest in this. There are way too many good things about our marriage to let this difference create major problems.

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Years ago I visited Lk. Como and it was optional. I visited as a single male and I was most comfortable at the pool where it was mandatory nude. I did find other areas where he seemed nude all the time. the tennis courts and volleyball. The only place I have visited recently within the last year was Camp David. It is mandatory nude there and I liked that rule much better. No questions as when and where to be dressed. Seemed much more comfortable.

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On a side note I've come across the letter that was sent to LC members and residents:

Dear Residents and Resort Members:

At its regular meeting last Wednesday evening, The Lake Como Co-op Board of Directors passed the following motion: "The Board authorizes management to post all buildings, amenities, and events as nudity required. Conditions/weather permitting."

It is the intent of the Board to make Lake Como a nudist resort and community in fact, and not just in name. Lake Como is a place for nudists, not a place for people who want to look at nudists. Over the next month, the signage will be put in place and the Board will discuss how to implement this change. A motion will be brought forward at the Board's May 24th meeting to set the terms for enforcement of our nudity policy. All residents and members who wish to have input should attend and make their wishes known. If you wish to put your concerns in writing, please address them to our General Manager

Many of our residents and resort members are greatly concerned about the number of people at Lake Como that do not practice social nudism. Our residents and members are at Lake Como to live and practice the nudist lifestyle and want to be with other people who practice nudism. The Board intends to make that happen!

Art Green, President LCCI


It does look like there just too many "textile'd" people at LC.

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On a side note I've come across the letter that was sent to LC members and residents:Dear Residents and Resort Members:At its regular meeting last Wednesday evening, The Lake Como Co-op Board of Directors passed the following motion: "The Board authorizes management to post all buildings, amenities, and events as nudity required. Conditions/weather permitting."It is the intent of the Board to make Lake Como a nudist resort and community in fact, and not just in name. Lake Como is a place for nudists, not a place for people who want to look at nudists. Over the next month, the signage will be put in place and the Board will discuss how to implement this change. A motion will be brought forward at the Board's May 24th meeting to set the terms for enforcement of our nudity policy. All residents and members who wish to have input should attend and make their wishes known. If you wish to put your concerns in writing, please address them to our General ManagerMany of our residents and resort members are greatly concerned about the number of people at Lake Como that do not practice social nudism. Our residents and members are at Lake Como to live and practice the nudist lifestyle and want to be with other people who practice nudism. The Board intends to make that happen!Art Green, President LCCIIt does look like there just too many "textile'd" people at LC.

Good for Como. It has become one of our favorite Florida resorts (along with Cypress Cove) and although I dont remember seeing large groups of textiles there when we have visited, we havent visited during their big events like the volleyball tournament. The biggest event we have attended is their 5K and that definitely attracted some textiles. We are going through something similar at Solair. I always thought we were a C/O camp, but new signs remind people going into the pool area and the beach, as well as the buildings in those areas that they are nude use only. We will see how they are enforced now that the weather is warming up.

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BTW. The changes at Lake Como is the result of a good deal of consultation with representatives from Solair. The looked to us for guidance in establishing their nudist not Clothing Optional policy over the last few months....

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Well, nude beaches should have all people full nude or at least bottom nude.In Florida (Halouver beach), for example, there are clothes beach, clothing optional beach and nude beach. But at the nude beach, you ll find people wearing swim trunks or speedos. It should be completely nude or nude from the wait down. Otherwise, go to the clothing optional beach next to it.Never heard that Haulover had a nudity required section. Where is it?

Its not a nudity required but on digital maps, it does show the names of the beaches. There is clothing optional beach and nude beach at haulover Beach

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