Most users - homeclothesfree included - identify themselves as straight on their profiles. May we assume that such users are, therefore, on here as heterosexual horndogs? I didn't think so. So kindly return the favor to those of us who identify as gay.
And you remain a prime example why visibility is important so that us LGBT+ know whom to avoid.
I love how you choose to speak for every LGBTQIA+ individual. And I love how others in the LGBTQIA+ community are empowered to speak for themselves and speak their truth even as you try to make your truth apply to everyone else.
Instead of reading the thread a understanding the full nature of the conversation and commenting in that you choose to push out your opinion and agenda against anyone and who perceive doesnt follow it conflating issues of visibility of people who identify as LGBTQIA+ with the OP that questions whether people with those identities were more inclined to nudity/nudism IMO feeds the stereotypes that have plagues the nudist community for a long time. If you are one of the people who wants to be known and engaged through one singular identity then more power to you. I wish you would stop hijacking conversations with that agenda.
But you know what far be it from me to tell you what to do with your life. You do you.
Most users - homeclothesfree included - identify themselves as straight on their profiles. May we assume that such users are, therefore, on here as heterosexual horndogs? I didn't think so. So kindly return the favor to those of us who identify as gay.
RESPECT
I started the thread and it is not an issue for me either.I engage in conversations with men on this site without considering their sexual preference.Doesn't make a difference if I am conversing with someone in person either.I was just curious because there seems to be a much higher proportion of gay men on nudist sites than in the population as a whole and wondered if anyone had an idea as to why,Hetro men join a naturist site in the hope of seeing naked women and not because they are naturists.I imagine its the same with gay men.
I joined to discuss nudist topics with other nudists, not to see naked people.
I also belong to 3 other nudists sites that have essentially no pictures.
Men probably are more inclined to follow their curiosity and feelings. Straight guys are very much able to appreciate the male body and still mention 'Straight' in their profile. Some are 'Bi-curious', which doesn't mean that their sexual preference is to be with guys; it just means that they're not uncomfortable with guys. And some might even want to explore... following their curiosity. Personally, I dont think in categories. I admire everyone who is not afraid to follow his feelings. There's no need to put a label on it. If a straight guy wants to experiment with another guy, that doesn't make him bi or gay to me. Just brave to not let conventions bother him. I suspect many more men want to experiment, but don't have the courage. My opinion is to not judge, just embrace everyone who is not afraid to explore.
Men probably are more inclined to follow their curiosity and feelings...Personally, I dont think in categories. I admire everyone who is not afraid to follow his feelings. There's no need to put a label on it....My opinion is to not judge, just embrace everyone who is not afraid to explore.
Well spoken! Labels are great for things in the grocery store, and barcodes help us scan for quicker processing. However people aren't made for logistical efficiency. Labels avoid that and something gets lost in how we see reality. Our focus needs to stay on what's inside.
I've read studies about how the U.S. gay community (primarily young white gay men) have been the key factor over decades in moving into urban neighborhoods to start regentrification. In addition, I don't think we'd have such societal trends as "bromance" and "male bonding" readily accepted by the heteronormative world without the pioneering societal work of the LGTQA+ community. I have a lot of gratitude for all those who make the world a more open place than when I was a kid.
As far as sexual preference, I question the value of "figuring it all out." Sure it plays an important role to sustain our human population, but how important is it beyond that? Once respect regarding sexual behaviors and preference becomes the norm, I'm sure we'll likely find new ways to divide and conquer people in new ways. By the way, did you hear about that group that only uses their left hands to wipe their asses? Shocking!
minimalist wrote:I joined to discuss nudist topics with other nudists, not to see naked people.I also belong to 3 other nudists sites that have essentially no pictures.
Same with me. I've posted a few pictures mainly to show that I have no reluctance to show myself as I am. But I really don't think that other people are looking at them with sex on their minds.
and stoneandy wrote:Well spoken! Labels are great for things in the grocery store, and barcodes help us scan for quicker processing. However people aren't made for logistical efficiency. Labels avoid that and something gets lost in how we see reality. Our focus needs to stay on what's inside.I've read studies about how the U.S. gay community (primarily young white gay men) have been the key factor over decades in moving into urban neighborhoods to start regentrification. In addition, I don't think we'd have such societal trends as "bromance" and "male bonding" readily accepted by the heteronormative world without the pioneering societal work of the LGTQA+ community. I have a lot of gratitude for all those who make the world a more open place than when I was a kid.
Lotta truth there. I, too, credit the younger generation with tearing down the barriers of sex and gender. I think you'll find that most of the controversy now about transgender people, non-binary people, and pronoun assignment is being generated by people over forty or so. They're very uncomfortable about the new world that young people are shaping.As far as sexual preference, I question the value of "figuring it all out." Sure it plays an important role to sustain our human population, but how important is it beyond that? Once respect regarding sexual behaviors and preference becomes the norm, I'm sure we'll likely find new ways to divide and conquer people in new ways.
I think that there is indeed a value in "figuring it all out." It's part of everybody's life, like figuring out everything else... what your values will be, what social status you're aspiring to, what your strengths and your weaknesses are. I'm around enough teenagers to see that that part of growing up hasn't changed. And when you add sexual identity to that list, with society's compulsion to identify you as one thing or another, you begin to see why they feel some stress. Who hasn't had stress about dealing with how you're going to lose your virginity, and to whom? It certainly was for me.
But here's the flaw in this whole dichotomy. Gay/Straight isn't a black/white, yes/no thing . It's a sliding scale, with most people at one end or the other, but with a whole lot of space in between where people find their true selves. And it's not a static thing. Many people start out at one end of the scale, either due to natural inclination or societal pressure, but find themselves drifting away from that end as they age. They find more comfort in inhabiting a space between the two polarities. Holly Near, for example, identified as a lesbian and became a leader in the drive for lesbian acceptance in society. But then she fell in love... with a man... and found herself repudiated by some of the same people who looked up to her as a champion for their cause.
I agree that the necessity of identifying ones self as "straight" or "gay" or "bi" doesn't make a lot of sense on a site like this. It's probably an offshoot of the site's creators, to go along with "True Swingers" as an overtly sexually oriented site. Maybe it's a good idea just to skip it. The only reason I see for keeping it is that it puts the member's cards on the table, so they can say "Yeah. I'm gay, and I'm looking for a relationship. It doesn't mean that I'm going to act on it with you, but I want you to know straight off so that there aren't any surprises or misunderstandings down the road." That makes some sort of sense to me.