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Airplane getting an aerial view

Publicado Nov 28, 2014

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SailNkd
SailNkdAutor original
Nov 28, 2014
Hey everyone. I have an issue concerning privacy at home I'd like to get feedback on.
I'll first say I'm very uninhibited about being naked. Getting caught by chance when I'm naked at home doesn't usually bother me. But I have an issue I'm becoming uncomfortable with.
I live in a resort town where it's warm year round so I'm outdoors a lot. I'm up on the side of a mountain with no other homes above me. Since it's totally private I never wear clothes at home inside or when out on the property. So if I'm working outside, using the pool, hiking, or doing anything outdoors, yep, I'm naked.
My problem is there's a local pilot that has a bi-wing plane tour that flies directly over my property at a very low level. On a busy weekend during the winter tourist season the plane can pass over my home several times a day. Luckily it doesn't operate in the summer. It's mainly just weekends during the winter.
The plane gives a scenic tour while also pointing out things of interest. One of these is the estate of a well known celebrity. His home is located just below my property. This is why I'm on the planes flight pattern. At first I didn't really care but now it has begun to annoy me since clearly the pilot knows if I'm outside his passenger will get a view of me buck naked.
I don't mind when an occasional plane or helicopter will buzz my house and see me it's just this tourist plane that does it repeatedly.
If I complain to the bi-wing company, FAA, or whoever I don't think invasion of privacy would be a valid complaint. I'd feel uncomfortable having to explain to these people it's because I'm naked all the time.
I've asked a pilot friend about this and flying a plane 500 ft. over my house is permissible in this situation. Does anyone have any ideas on the best way I can resolve this situation? I don't want to be labeled as the complaining naked guy up on the mountain. Thanks!
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  • OL
    ollygrumps
    Nov 28, 2014
    Back in the 1970's we had a long hot summer and I sunbathed daily in my garden. I shared the house with a flying instructor who regularly took his pupils over our garden as I sunbathed. I just thought of it as a bit of fun. I don't mind who sees me naked as long as they don't mind my nudity. So, for me, it wouldn't be a problem even if the tourists took photos and those photos got out. But I know many others do not feel this way. I remember a pilot flying low repeatedly over a nudist beach in Spain. We all came out and blatantly took photos of him. The plane could easily be identified in the photos. He soon went away.
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  • BI
    billybcgn25
    Nov 29, 2014
    Hi, Sail,

    As a private pilot, I can understand your concerns.  Indeed, since it is a "sparsely populated area," the biplane is legally allowed to fly no lower than 500' above ground level (AGL).  Therefore, so long as the pilot claims he was that high, the FAA won't get involved.

    That said, I do understand your question.  Not knowing the terrain, perhaps you can message me precisely where you live, so I can look at sectional charts (maps), and other resources to see if there is possibly another route, which I could then forward to you.

    Armed with that, you could possibly visit with the aviation services provider, and ask him to try the alternate route.

    Grace and peace,
    Jim
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  • NE
    newddudeoc
    Nov 29, 2014

    I think I would be more annoyed at any noise of the plane flying over and breaking the quiet solitude than of them seeing me outside naked.  Any passengers would not know who I am and the pilot probably would not either so it would be just some anonymous stranger they happen to see nude outdoors.  In that situation, I may even take a humorous side to it and wave to everyone if I happen to be outside. I am also able to enjoy my yard naked and if a helicopter or plane happens to fly close by where they may be able to see me, I just figure I am enjoying my own private property and they are the one's invading my private space by using the air space.  It certainly doesn't happen frequently or repeatedly like it does with your location.

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  • CA
    Campingbare
    Nov 29, 2014
    I wave at the helicopters and hot air balloons that fly over my place when I am outside naked.  I have flown a lot myself, sometimes in ultralight craft where you have an excellent view of everything.  USUALLY, you are not even paying that close attention to what is right below you unless you are looking for something specific. So I doubt that most of the folks flying over even see me.

    One morning a group of balloons were flying so low over the yard that I could see their faces clearly and hear everything they said. I waved, and a few seconds later, I started seeing flashes going off. Apparently they were taking pictures of me.  That was a couple of years ago, and that was the last group of balloons that flew over my yard that low.  Maybe I broke their cameras ;)

    While camping naked in a nearby National Forest, I had a helicopter drop a bucket into the water right next to my campsite to fight a nearby fire.  They came and went over the next couple of hours. They showed no sign of seeing me - they were probably too fixated on getting their water.  In that same area  a few years later, a military helicopter flew by just over treetop level, then turned and hovered right next to the campsite. I waved at the crew and did not try to hide the fact that I was naked. What they saw, they saw.

    I think there's a certain sense that when you fly small craft, you will see things others don't see. The occaisional naked person just makes for good stories back at the hanger.

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  • RA
    ragadas
    Nov 29, 2014
    I, too, live in an area where it is possible to spend many of my outside hours nude. There is a small community airport about 3 straight-line miles from my home and they have numerous training sessions and "fly-ins" during the summer. The flight pattern often is right over my house, but I've decided that them seeing me naked isn't my problem and if it causes them concern, they can alter their flight pattern. Usually, I'll just ignore them.

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  • SA
    SailNkd
    SailNkdAutor original
    Nov 29, 2014
    Thanks everyone for the input so far, much appreciated!
    As I mentioned I don't have an issue with the occasional plane or helicopter seeing me. I've even had them veer off course or come back around for a closer look. This is a very nudist friendly town and I know for a fact that local pilots see naked people all the time. What I don't like is I feeling as if I'm becoming an attraction for this biplane pilot and his tourist passenger. So waving would seem to encourage it all.
    I'll note that I'm very near a natural scenic attraction and why aircraft occasionally fly over my property at a low level. This is also why the biplane passes over me after he flies over the celebrity's property below me. But he could easily avoid coming over my property by slightly adjusting his flight path in a different direction.
    Billybcgn25, thanks for the offer for advice as a pilot. I'll message you the info.
    Haven't had him flying over today yet. Is it bad to hope maybe he's grounded for awhile with mechanical problems?
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  • ME
    Membro
    Nov 29, 2014
    The planes would have to be flying pretty low to get any kind of detail.  From 500 feet and above nudity itself doesn't read well.  Someone would need a steady hand with a zoom lens and clear intent to get any kind of view.  I doubt you are in any kind of danger other than the simple nuisance of the plane being there.
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  • OL
    ollygrumps
    Nov 29, 2014
    I think the nearby celebrity has more reason to object to the tourists continually flying over than you do. You live near them so maybe you should be prepared for this sort of activity. Why not just enjoy and wave at them. They are more interested in the celebrity anyhow.
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  • SA
    SailNkd
    SailNkdAutor original
    Nov 29, 2014
    Thanks again.
    The celebrity's property is about 500-600 ft. lower than my elevation so when the plane buzzes my property he's much closer to me. I figure if I can clearly see the pilot and his passenger that they can see me too. Plus I'm in the desert with only palm trees and low landscaping so I'm in very plain site most anywhere on the property.
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  • NU
    nudetanrelaxed
    Nov 30, 2014
    [quote]Hey everyone. I have an issue concerning privacy at home I'd like to get feedback on.
    I'll first say I'm very uninhibited about being naked. Getting caught by chance when I'm naked at home doesn't usually bother me. But I have an issue I'm becoming uncomfortable with.
    I live in a resort town where it's warm year round so I'm outdoors a lot. I'm up on the side of a mountain with no other homes above me. Since it's totally private I never wear clothes at home inside or when out on the property. So if I'm working outside, using the pool, hiking, or doing anything outdoors, yep, I'm naked.
    My problem is there's a local pilot that has a bi-wing plane tour that flies directly over my property at a very low level. On a busy weekend during the winter tourist season the plane can pass over my home several times a day. Luckily it doesn't operate in the summer. It's mainly just weekends during the winter.
    The plane gives a scenic tour while also pointing out things of interest. One of these is the estate of a well known celebrity. His home is located just below my property. This is why I'm on the planes flight pattern. At first I didn't really care but now it has begun to annoy me since clearly the pilot knows if I'm outside his passenger will get a view of me buck naked.
    I don't mind when an occasional plane or helicopter will buzz my house and see me it's just this tourist plane that does it repeatedly.
    If I complain to the bi-wing company, FAA, or whoever I don't think invasion of privacy would be a valid complaint. I'd feel uncomfortable having to explain to these people it's because I'm naked all the time.
    I've asked a pilot friend about this and flying a plane 500 ft. over my house is permissible in this situation. Does anyone have any ideas on the best way I can resolve this situation? I don't want to be labeled as the complaining naked guy up on the mountain. Thanks![/quote]
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  • NU
    nudetanrelaxed
    Nov 30, 2014
    [quote]FAA requires a minimum of 1000 ft altitude. Perhaps a report to FAA. We have Police, fire and other helicopters flying over us when I'm naked in the backyard (which is often). I wave and they circle and my friends all wave too. For me no big deal.[/quote][quote]
    [/quote][quote]Hey everyone. I have an issue concerning privacy at home I'd like to get feedback on.
    I'll first say I'm very uninhibited about being naked. Getting caught by chance when I'm naked at home doesn't usually bother me. But I have an issue I'm becoming uncomfortable with.
    I live in a resort town where it's warm year round so I'm outdoors a lot. I'm up on the side of a mountain with no other homes above me. Since it's totally private I never wear clothes at home inside or when out on the property. So if I'm working outside, using the pool, hiking, or doing anything outdoors, yep, I'm naked.
    My problem is there's a local pilot that has a bi-wing plane tour that flies directly over my property at a very low level. On a busy weekend during the winter tourist season the plane can pass over my home several times a day. Luckily it doesn't operate in the summer. It's mainly just weekends during the winter.
    The plane gives a scenic tour while also pointing out things of interest. One of these is the estate of a well known celebrity. His home is located just below my property. This is why I'm on the planes flight pattern. At first I didn't really care but now it has begun to annoy me since clearly the pilot knows if I'm outside his passenger will get a view of me buck naked.
    I don't mind when an occasional plane or helicopter will buzz my house and see me it's just this tourist plane that does it repeatedly.
    If I complain to the bi-wing company, FAA, or whoever I don't think invasion of privacy would be a valid complaint. I'd feel uncomfortable having to explain to these people it's because I'm naked all the time.
    I've asked a pilot friend about this and flying a plane 500 ft. over my house is permissible in this situation. Does anyone have any ideas on the best way I can resolve this situation? I don't want to be labeled as the complaining naked guy up on the mountain. Thanks![/quote]
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  • GA
    gabare
    Nov 30, 2014

    it has never failed every nudist camp i have visited or belong to in georgia must be posted at local airports because every suuny day you could expect a visit. i remember one time a army huey helicopter flew over and came back and hovered above the pool on a busy saturday - no doubt they got a eyeful. i have them fly over house occasional but not so low so unless your worried about them crashing into your property i wouldn't worry about it and heck you may even convert someone when they see how much more comfortable it is to be nude outside.

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  • OL
    ollygrumps
    Nov 30, 2014
    Thanks for your story Campingbare. When sailing with friends and anchored off a secluded cove we made it clear that we were naked to any approaching yacht. Some turned away and others anchored nearby. They had no objection to our skinny-dipping.

    I've been on various nude beaches where textiles have come close. One was a whole boat load of scuba divers who swam around us, then came ashore. My approach is that if I'm there first, and not breaking any laws by being naked, they can chose to come near or not as they wish. Bu then, I did stand naked on the track side and wave at a passing express train.
    As you say: why not celebrate your nakedness?
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  • LA
    Lakeman221
    Dec 1, 2014
    Have you ever thought about taking the plane trip yourself, just to see what the pilot may be directing attention to for his passengers? It may be worth investing the money in the trip to see if there is any mention of you or any other local nudists that may or not be present when the fly by occurs. Since he may not know who you are you may be assumed to be a regular tourist, and treat you as such. Then you can see things from his perspective, to find out if you are a point of interest in his flight plan. If nothing is mentioned of your residence during your flight, then it may be the same with the other flights that you are so concerned about. If you can afford to book a tour with him, then it may be worth your while to put your mind at rest about this or to increase your awareness of what is taking place on these tours. Who knows, you might find out about other nudists in your area that you can meet up with to discuss this issue about the tour flights or at least have someone to talk with about it.
    If something were to upset you during the flight, don't say anything while airborne, this will likely cause the pilot to deviate from his routine. Just go along to see what all is going on with these flights before you decide what to do further about them. Just act like John Q. Tourist during the entire event to find out what is going on during the flights.
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  • BA
    barediver
    Dec 1, 2014
    Yes, you can put up several tether weather balloons over your property about 2000 feet up.
    Not sure how practical that will be, but you might check and see.
    good luck
    Michael
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  • ME
    Membro
    Dec 1, 2014
    We live in a rural setting in a smaller town. That being said it's where everyone know your name just like the "Cheers" theme song. Being a nudist if your in business has to stay on the down-low. If it were not in our case we wouldn't care. We happen to be in a runway path just two miles away from the airport. We know many pilots, a couple  homemade helicopter owners, balloon pilot ect. After a couple years Luann just seemed to ignore them or at least didnt run for cover.

    I was concerned at first and questioned a series of weekend low fly overs by the same plane to a guy i knew well  that was an airport board member. Heard a big dumb act response basically. Believe me I have been up in HIS plane. And yes like very many out there,  naked people are a hoot to catch. Why else would there be so many fly overs at our nudist camp?


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  • SA
    SailerH37C
    Dec 1, 2014
    Had a plane fly over this past summer looks like they got a good view !!https://www.truenudists.com/members/pictures/view.php?id=58471438

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  • NO
    nopantzkindofguy
    Dec 1, 2014
    [quote]Hi, Sail,

    As a private pilot, I can understand your concerns.  Indeed, since it is a "sparsely populated area," the biplane is legally allowed to fly no lower than 500' above ground level (AGL).  Therefore, so long as the pilot claims he was that high, the FAA won't get involved.

    That said, I do understand your question.  Not knowing the terrain, perhaps you can message me precisely where you live, so I can look at sectional charts (maps), and other resources to see if there is possibly another route, which I could then forward to you.

    Armed with that, you could possibly visit with the aviation services provider, and ask him to try the alternate route.

    Grace and peace,
    Jim
    [/quote]I agree with Jim. I'm a Pvt Pilot, too, and chances are the pilot and his/her passengers are more focused on the celebrity's house and not yours, or your nudity. I'd ignore it and if they wave their wings at you, wave back! Trust me, even at 500 Ft, they're not going to see "anything".... One of my female friends used to sunbathe topless when she knew I was going flying. She used to wave her top at me as I passed.. that's as close as I ever got to seeing those puppies up close and personal.... (Drat!)Stay naked!

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  • ME
    Membro
    Dec 2, 2014
    Over the last couple of years there has been a noticeable increase in small planes from a local airfield flying over a nudist beach we visit often. Some are very low and unless they have lots of the same planes, marked exactly the same, one or two seem to pass over a few times every time I am there. I've never noticed anyone with cameras, they are close enough that we'd probably see that. It doesn't bother me if they're there to look at nudists as I don't care who sees me naked and its an accepted nudist place, some other regulars aren't so keen on that. Being a tourist attraction due to our nudity from the air isn't as bad as being gawked at from nearby bushes or more blatantly by close walk-bys by textile 'tourists'. The noise intrusion isn't appreciated though, it does intrude in a wild and natural place, but maybe the pilots are looking at the natural scenery?! If so being naked in nature is very natural in my view, maybe they are just jealous that we know how to appreciate nature in the best way?!
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  • KE
    KenNHNudist
    Dec 2, 2014

    My local airport has flight schools, both fixed wing and rotary.  I seem to be on their normal flight path.  My feeling is that being naked on my deck isn't a crime.  I doubt they could see much anyway from that distance, and I don't really care if they do.  Certainly the cops won't be called if someone was offended that I was naked as they fly by.

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  • CA
    Campingbare
    Dec 2, 2014
    [quote]Had a plane fly over this past summer looks like they got a good view !!www.truenudists.com/members/pictures/view.php?id=58471438]https://www.truenudists.com/members/pictures/view.php?id=58471438[/url]

    [/quote]A little confusing. The link is for my gallery pictures.
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    silversurfer
    Dec 2, 2014
    [quote]Yes, you can put up several tether weather balloons over your property about 2000 feet up.
    Not sure how practical that will be, but you might check and see.
    good luck
    Michael [/quote]I thought of that too! Definitely and option if it continues to bother you. I've been on the nude beach when someone in one of those sit in one man parachute vehicles have flown by. Also been out surfing there again nude when boaters went by pretty close. No worries!
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  • SA
    SailerH37C
    Dec 2, 2014
    [quote][quote]http://www.truenudists.com/members/pictures/view.php?id=58471438[/quote][/quote]Campingbare, Sorry to confuse you.   I thought the picture ID was unique.  Got any pointers on posting pictures in posts? When I click the link I get a picture of my boat.




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