I'm watching it again and decided to determine when it actually took place. Spartacus died in 71 AD. Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD. During that period of time, nudity was quit common and little, if anything, was thought of it. If nudity had any significance at all, it was a possible sign of poverty. However, nudity, per se, was not a cause for shame. If a freeborn wealthy Roman man were nude out in public, it would certainly be unusual, but [em]not[/em] obscene or shameful. It would be very similar to seeing an attorney in a court room wearing t-shirt and jeans. Unusual? Yes. Shameful? No. Anyone whose job was dirty (farm work, smithing, dock work, fishing, or anything that would likely soil or wear out clothing) likely worked in the nude -- whether male or female -- child or adult. Slaves were commonly nude -- no point in wasting money on clothing for slaves. Except, of course, as a show of wealth; I'm so wealthy even my slaves wear clothing.
Even freeborn wealthy Roman men were nude in the public bathhouses. If men were engaged in any physical training, it was done in the nude.
So, back to Spartacus. The gladiators have a private bathhouse. If they were freeborn wealthy Roman men in a public bathhouse, they'd be nude. Yet more than half of the gladiators are shown wearing clothing while in their private bathhouse.
The gladiators train in a private enclosed training yard. If they were freeborn wealthy Roman men in a public training facility, they would likely be nude. Yet all of the gladiators are clothed while training.
There are numerous scenes that take place within the City of Capua. There should be nude people seen at all times in everyone of those city scenes. There should also be nude people seen among the spectators at the arena.
It would be amazing if someone made a series depicting events told in the Bible and made it as realistic as possible. Isaiah was nude for three years -- didn't even wear sandals. The prophets were nude. People worked in the nude -- including women. The mass baptisms were done outside in a river and everyone was nude.
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- MEmensasnemAutor originalApr 13, 2022
Nudity was very common throughout all of Bible times and continued to be common well afterward.
The early converts who accepted Messiah were baptized outside in a river in full view of anyone who happened to be in the vicinity. Many of the baptism were done en masse. They were always done in the nude. This is known from historical record and artistic depictions.Keep in mind that Baptism -- by emersion -- was nothing new to Jewish society. And it was (still is as far as I know) always done in the nude. Can't even wear your wedding band -- because if you did, you would not be completely nude.
ReaccionarResponder - MEmensasnemAutor originalApr 13, 2022That passage makes Christians squirm all over the place. [quote] he also gives the impression of fighting his own same-sex attraction and body loathing eg his "thorn in my flesh" talk. [/quote]ReaccionarResponder
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Apr 14, 2022Many people believe that David actually fought Goliath nude, as often depicted in art. Two reasons. Shepherds and common soldiers were often nude, so it would not be unusual for David. Before the confrontation, the Bible says that David took off Saul's armor and tunic and says nothing about him putting his own clothes on.
ReaccionarResponder - MEmensasnemAutor originalApr 16, 2022
I hadn't heard that before about David having fought Goliath while nude. But it makes sense. Nudity was extremely common and only a cause of shame because it implied poverty. But many occupations were carried out nude because of the possibility of soiling or damaging clothing -- sheepherding was probably one of them. People didn't have a wardrobe full of clothing. Typically, common people had one garment. They didn't have work clothing, play clothing, Sunday-go-to-meeting clothing, work-on-the-car clothing, and tennis clothing. They had a single garment, which was removed if there were any risk of soiling or damaging it.
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