Greek statuary and the nudist ethos - The Mens Room on True Nudists

May 20, 2024

Greek statuary is notable for the somewhat minimized depiction of the male genitalia. The statues were mostly of figures to admire. And mastery of the body, mastery of the passions - were admirable attributes. Rather larger genitalia represented a lack of that mastery, held up for condescension or mockery, as in figures of barbarians or comic vase paintings. It occurs to me that there is a strain of nudism that celebrates that sort of mastery. Dependingvery muchon context, I can certainly feel that impulse in myself. It's not prudery or anything of the sort, but a kind of pride. As the Greeks were proud of how civilized they were. The internet is not real life, and photography is not sculpture; they can't, I don't think, embody the same symbolism. But do you think that in real life nudism - "true" nudism as it would define itself - there's real pride in a level of mastery of the passions that would not be so evident in the clothed male body?

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StevieLorna
Jul 11, 2024
cinaedus
Thats an old word.
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casrfr65
Aug 15, 2024
[quote]Maybe the genitalia on Michelangelo's David are undersized for a similar reason. Undersized? From what I've seen around nude men, that size isn't unusual at all. I think it only seems that way because much of the rest of David's anatomy is supersized, so to speak.[/quote] I was going to say the same thing. If we look at average penises in Greek statuary, to those that are even smaller, I think it is largely representative of most men, to be honest. As a former athlete I was in a lot of locker rooms. And since then I have been in a lot of gyms, not to mention nude beaches, etc., and most men are not hung huge. Mostly average. I know that what I have witnessed is only a cross section of men, but often times a cross section can give you a fairly decent idea of what is out there. We certainly live in a more exhibitionist type society now where "size" is everything. No matter what it is, it seems. And when it comes to male members, that is certainly the case. In fact, even though nudism is meant to be a celebration of the human body, many seem to lose focus on that point. Which is why men who have size often flaunt it, and then the reactions that follow would suggest that his size has some innate sense of "special" to it. For me, that's not what nudism is about. Maybe the TS form of nudism, but not the TN brand. A large size is the luck of the DNA draw at the end of the day ;) But as far as the statuary is concerned, I see it as being largely representative of most men.
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NakedCaveMan
Aug 18, 2024
Michelangelo was an amazing sculptur, so any difference in proportion was surely intentional. David's hands are indeed much larger than other parts of his anatomy.
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casrfr65
Aug 18, 2024
[quote]Michelangelo was an amazing sculptur, so any difference in proportion was surely intentional. David's hands are indeed much larger than other parts of his anatomy.[/quote] Very true. At the end of the day if you had a museum full of male nude statuary, and every single one of them was hung, it would be distracting to the rest of the art. And again, it wouldn't necessarily be representative of most men. It would seem too contrived, almost cartoonish, and deemed by some as vulgar. Even though a large penis is certainly neither cartoonish nor vulgar. But again, the art would lose something in my opinion, because now the focus is on the size of the phallus and nothing else.
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uniball
Aug 28, 2024
Always believed ancient Greeks had it right about penis size. Smaller is better. Back then, men would be praised for it but somehow society got it all backwards so now we have to feel ashamed about not being big enough down there. It ain't fair
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uniball
Aug 28, 2024
Always believed ancient Greeks had it right about penis size. Smaller is better. Back then, men would be praised for it but somehow society got it all backwards so now we have to feel ashamed about not being big enough down there. It ain't fair
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nudeyooper
Aug 28, 2024
We do not have to be ashamed of our size. However, some choose to do so. My wife insists that girth is much more important than length and what I have satisfies her. But this has nothing to do with nudism. We are to be non judgemental, uncaring about what others have, and that being naked is an eqalizer. What the Greeks depicted must have been about right since their civilization remains to this day.
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casrfr65
Nov 20, 2024
And what is interesting, is when I see a man with a small penis, I'm not thinking, 'wow, look how small that is.'
Just the opposite. I'm thinking how great it looks.
Every penis is special, in my opinion. Because it's attached to a unique man.
And as I've noted on a couple of boards here, my ex was a pilot in the Marine Corps. Good looking guy. Nice physique. Small penis.
I couldn't have cared less.
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casrfr65
Nov 20, 2024
And what is interesting, is when I see a man with a small penis, I'm not thinking, 'wow, look how small that is.'
Just the opposite. I'm thinking how great it looks.
Every penis is special, in my opinion. Because it's attached to a unique man.
And as I've noted on a couple of boards here, my ex was a pilot in the Marine Corps. Good looking guy. Nice physique. Small penis.
I couldn't have cared less.
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