Transgender rest and locker rooms

The topic was in the news again today. I personally think this is an issue that the government need not get into and my suggestion is that if you have a penis, you use the men's. All of us have nipples, all of us have areolas, and some of us have breasts as well as a penis. With the design of most U.S. restrooms, privacy is not an issue because of individual stalls with doors. Any other thoughts?

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RE:Transgender rest and locker rooms

The problem is, you would not always know if a real woman was using the male restroom, because some trans genders are more beautiful than many of the real women you see in everyday life. Then again you have some men with breast implants and makeup, but are still quite clearly male, however much they try to hide their real gender.

The solution would be, for ugly ones to use male restrooms and pretty ones use female restrooms. This would avoid confusion with real women going into the men's room.

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I realize that you are making an attempt at humor.

Real women frequently use the men's restroom when the line for the women's is too long. Attractiveness is certainly not the issue. The real issue is a law that requires a person to use the restroom that would be appropriate for the sex at birth, not the sex at the time and does not consider transformation. Another thought is that a transgendered person would not likely be shocked by the sight of a penis.

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I just gotta go! I really don't care who's in the restroom, bathroom, toilet, WC - whatever you care to call it. For me it's not a social place. I just gotta go!

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I doubt there are many laws regarding who uses which restroom, and obviously there is no enforcement if there were any. Those who propose various solutions to what up until now has been a non-problem never offer any suggestions about who should enforce their new rules. Should we have some government official at the door of each public restroom? If so, exactly what would he or she do? Would users have to show their birth certificate, or crotch, or perhaps some government issued certificate of gender? Would entry be barred if the proper documentation is not produced? This whole issue is incredibly stupid. Is this a big problem somewhere? Methinks that some people don't have enough to worry about.

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The long-term solution would obviously be to retrofit, or if a new building, install multiple, separate stalls/rooms completely isolated from each other with lockable doors and available to anyone much like Porta-Potties outdoors. A more expensive alternative and space intensive, but would solve all the aforementioned problems. Who wants to share a restroom with anyone else anyway?

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The long-term solution would obviously be to retrofit, or if a new building, install multiple, separate stalls/rooms completely isolated from each other with lockable doors and available to anyone much like Porta-Potties outdoors. A more expensive alternative and space intensive, but would solve all the aforementioned problems. Who wants to share a restroom with anyone else anyway?

Ditto

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I've been hanging back, reading what you guys have written and pondering how I really feel about this.....it's been in the news for months now and doesn't seem to be going away.....and it's a tough one.
1) I am a nudist and I have seen people naked. I am not ashamed of my body and I am not going to shame others. 100% Body Positive.
2) When I had young children, would I want to let my daughter go to a public restroom unescorted if I knew both sexes would be there?
3) A completely private, lockable space in a public restroom invites all manner of problems from homeless people living in them to sexcapades of patrons. The partitions in public restrooms have a space at the top and bottom for a very good reason.
4) When I have to go in a public restroom, I really don't care who is doing their business in the next stall and the less I know about it the better. I could care less they have a penis or vagina....just give me a courtesy flush.
I have been in commercial construction for many years and the number of restroom spaces in a public venue is governed by the building codes based on occupancy ratings. My solution is to make one large restroom. No urinals. Many stalls with partitions that afford some privacy but not total. A common hand washing area and bring back the restroom attendant. Saves space, saves time waiting in line, puts the whole which restroom do I use question to rest and puts people to work....might even make some of the restrooms cleaner too.
As far as locker rooms, penis go in this door....vaginas go in this door. That isn't difficult to understand. I'll move over at the mirror while I'm shaving after my workout if you need more room to spread out your make-up.

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Well I think the ultimate solution to the whole problem would be not let anyone go through the transformation from male-to-female or female-to-male. Another solution done would be to have just individual bathrooms where they be male or female use one person only or family use. But once they have the sex change and are changed over one way or the other then there shouldn't be no problem whatsoever.

But there again I agree a bathroom is not a social hall it is designed for one thing and not a place together and discuss what happened during the day or yesterday it is to go to the bathroom.

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I've been hanging back, reading what you guys have written and pondering how I really feel about this.....it's been in the news for months now and doesn't seem to be going away.....and it's a tough one.1) I am a nudist and I have seen people naked. I am not ashamed of my body and I am not going to shame others. 100% Body Positive.2) When I had young children, would I want to let my daughter go to a public restroom unescorted if I knew both sexes would be there?3) A completely private, lockable space in a public restroom invites all manner of problems from homeless people living in them to sexcapades of patrons. The partitions in public restrooms have a space at the top and bottom for a very good reason.4) When I have to go in a public restroom, I really don't care who is doing their business in the next stall and the less I know about it the better. I could care less they have a penis or vagina....just give me a courtesy flush.I have been in commercial construction for many years and the number of restroom spaces in a public venue is governed by the building codes based on occupancy ratings. My solution is to make one large restroom. No urinals. Many stalls with partitions that afford some privacy but not total. A common hand washing area and bring back the restroom attendant. Saves space, saves time waiting in line, puts the whole which restroom do I use question to rest and puts people to work....might even make some of the restrooms cleaner too.As far as locker rooms, penis go in this door....vaginas go in this door. That isn't difficult to understand. I'll move over at the mirror while I'm shaving after my workout if you need more room to spread out your make-up.

As a former facilities manager, I could not agree more. As one of a very practical nature, I would be an advocate of this except for the fact that attendants cost money that few building owners would be willing to spend, and women would tend to be afraid of someone lurking in the shadows.

The real problem here is an attempt to write a law that requires a person to use the facility that was appropriate for that person's sex at birth. It is simply ridiculous to even think that should be a law, let alone figure out how to enforce it. It makes no consideration for those who are in transition, not does it allow for the completed change. It actually requires a transgendered woman to use the men's facilities, and vice versa. Maybe the real solution is to stop electing stupid lawmakers.

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"Maybe the real solution is to stop electing stupid lawmakers".

This has to be one of the most intelligent things I have ever seen written on this forum. It would solve so many problems if everyone on both sides of the political spectrum would follow this very sage advice.

Thank you for your wisdom!

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