I In biblical times, clothing was difficult to make and maintain, so it was often not worn where it was likely to be torn or become extremely dirty, like fishing, farming, etc.
What sources are you using for this statement?
Biblical times, I assume you mean two to three thousand years ago.
People then had no difficulty in making clothes or maintaining them. In fact modern people are far more useless at maintaining clothes than back then.
Up date my niece thought it was funny she told us we should get a room lolSick fantasy.
I would like to understand what you find 'sick' in this situation, and why you are suggesting it is a fantasy. John isn't talking about showing sexual or even suggestive pictures, he's taking a cue from his wife to playfully pay back their niece for snooping around in the wife's cellphone at pictures that she should have had the respect to not look at without permission. Nude isn't lewd until you make it into something that it isn't and I think that seems to be where you've gone here. Their niece knows John is a nudist and I see nothing wrong with what his wife suggested to remind the niece of proper boundaries. I prefer to assume a good nudist has no ulterior motives involving family members. Maybe that is being nave but I consider this a reasonable lesson to teach respect for someone's privacy. No one should ever pick up someone else's cellphone and begin rifling through their stuff. That is very bad manners for someone who is an adult and should know better.
The desire to show nude pics of yourself to your niece, who is not a nudist is a sick fantasy, no matter her age. I wonder how her husband feels about that. I have trouble believing this story so its probably irrelevant.
I have three brothers, if one of them was to show my daughters nude pics of themselves Id be fucking furious. Their mother would go fucking postal.
Thats what I mean by , sick fantasy.
Depending on the family relationship, it just might not be so serious as to elicit "strong disapproval."
During my first marriage, my MIL would sometimes just "show up" at our house unexpectedly. My wife warned her that we were often all nude at home; so her Mom should at least forewarn us of her impeding arrival, so that we wouldn't be running around scrambling to put clothes back on. My stubborn MIL did not heed her daughter's request and just kept showing up unannounced. So one day, upon hearing her Mom's familiar knock on the front door, my wife - who was completely naked preparing dinner at the time - decided it was time for a "teachable moment"; and just walked right up to the door naked to let her in. My MIL's expression was priceless; as she tried to "play down" her discombobulation at being "faced" with her daughter's nudity as she walked through the front door. Without skipping a beat or showing any self-consciousness, my wife then invited her to help with dinner; and so her Mom just followed her naked daughter into the kitchen. My MIL subsequently gave her approval for us to stay naked when she came over.
Is it really that different from what the OP is talking about? Some might feel it is because at least my MIL was forewarned. But the point of it is that my ex-wife and her Mom's relationship was open enough to allow this "confronting situation" to happen without any negative repercussions. They actually laughed about it. If at the end of it no one is really offended, where's the harm?
Depending on the family relationship, it just might not be so serious as to elicit "strong disapproval."During my first marriage, my MIL would sometimes just "show up" at our house unexpectedly. My wife warned her that we were often all nude at home; so her Mom should at least forewarn us of her impeding arrival, so that we wouldn't be running around scrambling to put clothes back on. My stubborn MIL did not heed her daughter's request and just kept showing up unannounced. So one day, upon hearing her Mom's familiar knock on the front door, my wife - who was completely naked preparing dinner at the time - decided it was time for a "teachable moment"; and just walked right up to the door naked to let her in. My MIL's expression was priceless; as she tried to "play down" her discombobulation at being "faced" with her daughter's nudity as she walked through the front door. Without skipping a beat or showing any self-consciousness, my wife then invited her to help with dinner; and so her Mom just followed her naked daughter into the kitchen. My MIL subsequently gave her approval for us to stay naked when she came over.Is it really that different from what the OP is talking about? Some might feel it is because at least my MIL was forewarned. But the point of it is that my ex-wife and her Mom's relationship was open enough to allow this "confronting situation" to happen without any negative repercussions. They actually laughed about it. If at the end of it no one is really offended, where's the harm?
After that was she OK with you being nude also?
Many people have more comfort with same gender nudity than mixed.
Hi JohnE44,
I think in other situations people have suggested leaving nude vacation pictures laying out as a conversation starter. If the 48 year old (which may have seen him skinny dipping in the past) is snooping through someones phone. Then so be it.
After that was she OK with you being nude also?Many people have more comfort with same gender nudity than mixed.
Yes. She did say she was ok with me staying nude as well. The only problem was: I was not comfortable hanging out naked around my dressed MIL like my wife was.
She did catch me nude once, as my wife let her inside the house while I was showering. When I came out into the living room naked I saw her sitting on the living room couch; and she immediately exclaimed: "Woohoo!"; which made me feel self-conscious. She didn't mean anything by it but I found it so off-putting that I turned around and grabbed a pair of shorts. I was not the experienced social nudist I am today; and rather than sit with her and discuss nudist etiquette, I chose to not be naked around her. I explained to my wife that the best way to normalize nudity between us would be if her Mom got naked too when she came over. But in spite of multiple invitations to disrobe or join us at the resort, she respectfully declined.
The "story" doesn't end there; as it had multiple episodes before the "grand finale." But for the sake of brevity I'll get straight to the conclusion. I had a conversation with my wife after we'd relocated, which surprised me. It turned out that my MIL was not at all opposed to being naked with us, but she was also concerned about how I would react to her nudity. So she was waiting for me to show comfort being naked around her before considering making the "leap." So basically, because I never sat down with her and discussed it, nothing ever happened.
The moral of the story is: communication. Obviously, I don't know how a conversation about us being naked around each other would have turned out. But at least we could have talked about it.
After that was she OK with you being nude also?Many people have more comfort with same gender nudity than mixed.Yes. She did say she was ok with me staying nude as well. The only problem was: I was not comfortable hanging out naked around my dressed MIL like my wife was.She did catch me nude once, as my wife let her inside the house while I was showering. When I came out into the living room naked I saw her sitting on the living room couch; and she immediately exclaimed: "Woohoo!"; which made me feel self-conscious. She didn't mean anything by it but I found it so off-putting that I turned around and grabbed a pair of shorts. I was not the experienced social nudist I am today; and rather than sit with her and discuss nudist etiquette, I chose to not be naked around her. I explained to my wife that the best way to normalize nudity between us would be if her Mom got naked too when she came over. But in spite of multiple invitations to disrobe or join us at the resort, she respectfully declined.The "story" doesn't end there; as it had multiple episodes before the "grand finale." But for the sake of brevity I'll get straight to the conclusion. I had a conversation with my wife after we'd relocated, which surprised me. It turned out that my MIL was not at all opposed to being naked with us, but she was also concerned about how I would react to her nudity. So she was waiting for me to show comfort being naked around her before considering making the "leap." So basically, because I never sat down with her and discussed it, nothing ever happened.The moral of the story is: communication. Obviously, I don't know how a conversation about us being naked around each other would have turned out. But at least we could have talked about it.
I agree that communication is helpful. I have a privacy fence around my pool and deck. One neighbor can still see into part of the area. I knew him well enough to know that he didn't care. When a new neighbor moved in, I put a wind screen on top of the fence. When I took it down in the fall, he asked me about it. I said that I prefer to swim and sun nude, He said that it wouldn't bother him if he he saw it over the fence. I won't have to get another wind screen next summer,
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