I'm just curious as the ATM's I've seen almost always have a camera to view the transaction; did anyone get an observational note from the authorities? Name, date, ID presented and validated exchange ... you were there.
Several years ago, I knew someone that was a branch manager at a local bank. The topic of cameras in the ATM came up and she said nobody monitors them and the video is only checked if something happens like the ATM being vandalized or a crime is committed in view of it that the Police request the video. . I doubt that the Police would bother with the hassle of getting the bank to release the video just to catch a naked person using the ATM, but if there was a report of it someone at the bank may review it just for kicks. From what she told me that has never happened.
... But I think its disingenuous to suggest its not always black and white as what nudism isnt.The OPs question about ATMs is a definite no. This is not nudism, and to frame the question in the way he has means he has no idea what it means.Using the ATM nude i wouldn't label as naturism as well, but basicly it could be nudism in the way that someone has decided to live an perma-integral nude live. That de facto this isn't possible or rcommendable in the society we live in, is another question. Probably in realtity the few naked uses of ATM are mainly results of dares, bets or drunkenness, like people who get gas naked or use the burger drive trough naked. So this would not count as true nudism, but just as some fun or nonsense.
Someone on this board who lives in Florida posted that he hasn't bought gas, gone to an ATM or taken the trash to the curb clothed since March and doesn't intend to do so as long as the pre-dawn temperature is above 70F. Seems like someone who lives naked as much as possible.
This is the point t have trying to make. Just because something is legal doesn't mean there are no guardrails or boundaries. Furthermore and individual act of public nakedness doesn't constitute nudosm as suggested in this thread. Nudism has been and should be a state of mind and a way of life rather than a state of dress.
When an I dividual promotes their behavior as nudism by saying they refuse to dress to go get the mail, put out trash or go to an ATM and justify that behavior as nudism or saying the video at the ATM is rarely viewed misses the point. When individuals engage in such behavior it reinforces a negative perception of nudism and social nudity. What has make the laws in places like the UK and Spain work is the national organizations focus of group activities where pu lic social nudity is present in a manner respectful of others as you describe.This is true, and in many other countries as well. But there are also social norms you have to consider. Though not a crime, public nudity might still count as disturbance of public order if someone feels bothered and result in a fine. So you always have to consider the setting and circumstances. Running around naked at a punk music festival or at the CSD parade is something other than to go shopping at the mall.
Yes, you are correct. There was an ATM in La Boutique at Club O. I did use it and used it nude. I wanted cash to pay the beach vendors for things to bring home to daughters and grandkids. My wife bought a few sarongs as well.Never been to Cap d Agde or any of those other places but Cap has advertised "shopping, dining and banking all in the nude," on their website. I agree that these third party ATM's do have some excessive fees. We use one close by at the nail salon for pedicures. It charges $2. That's far better than driving 4-5 miles to the bank, when the need arises. But we've paid upwards of $4.50 for the transaction in other places. Definite rip off..
Cap is the least likely we will visit due to the heavy swinger influence, but if there are any banks in either of the other two towns I could see us going to an official first party ATM while nude. Not quite an ATM, but I did walk up to the ship's purser while nude on a Bare Necessities cruise and deposit some casino winnings onto our account. That should be better than an ATM, no?
I'm guessing the one at La Boutique was more than $4.50 and gave a horrible exchange rate on top of it. This reminds me I need to get some Euros before our trip to Residence Adam & Eve in St. Martin this February or we will be stuck at one of those third party ATMs at the grocery store in Orient Village getting some cash for the beach vendors (although most are happy to take USD at a 1:1 rate, so I should really just use $ since they have already uncreased their prices by 10-15% to cover the difference).
There are ATMs in certain nudist resorts that nudist do use, but thats not what the OP is asking.
He is asking if you have used one nude in your town.
I would ask you to explain exhibitionism, fetishism and voyeurism to him, but those are concepts he thinks mean nudism because you can do them with tiny shorts on.
As far as explaining those things to him, I don't think it will change a thing. I've done it many times on many different topics but then he comes back with answers trying to make sense of his nonsense.
I know you are right Andy. You cant change the mind of someone with so little imagination.
Perhaps we should ask the two TN members he claims was on a nude walk with recently, to talk some sense into him, they were Dr Peter Brady and Harvey the Rabbit I believe.
Cap is the least likely we will visit due to the heavy swinger influence, but if there are any banks in either of the other two towns I could see us going to an official first party ATM while nude. Not quite an ATM, but I did walk up to the ship's purser while nude on a Bare Necessities cruise and deposit some casino winnings onto our account. That should be better than an ATM, no?I'm guessing the one at La Boutique was more than $4.50 and gave a horrible exchange rate on top of it. This reminds me I need to get some Euros before our trip to Residence Adam & Eve in St. Martin this February or we will be stuck at one of those third party ATMs at the grocery store in Orient Village getting some cash for the beach vendors (although most are happy to take USD at a 1:1 rate, so I should really just use $ since they have already uncreased their prices by 10-15% to cover the difference).We are of the same mindset. In the early years, we would have loved to visit Cap but not now. Our sights are set on La Jenny.Side story, we drove through our bank's ATM the other day. I withdrew cash and the ATM didn't give me all the bills! The door remained open and I had to stick my fingers up into the machine and pull the other bills out. I was NOT naked. I was fully clothed. There wasn't a car behind us waiting for the ATM, but I wouldn't have jumped out of the car naked anyway. The bank is on a very busy street in town.We used to walk Orient Beach nude and go into Sexy Fruits and Adam and Eve to shop. For some reason, we got a better deal with Euros. It was also fun to be able to have drinks and dine with just a sarong on. My wife could always be topless. Haven't been back in quite some time. We sure do miss SXM.
La Jenny is on our list as well. The ONLY nude golf course in the world. Only 6 holes, but they are real golf holes, not the chip and putt holes we play at nudist resorts. Nude chip and putt is fun, but real golf takes it to a whole new level.
You can tell the reputable businesses on Orient. They have separate prices for dollars vs. euros. If they have one price then they calculated in dollars and are ripping off anyone using euros. We remember the "old" shops on the beach and were there in 2015 just as they were torn down to make way for the "new" shopping stores. We never saw those new stores since our next trip back was 2018, a year after Hurricane Irma destroyed them. It will be interesting to see what the beach looks like now.
we were in st martin in march 2024. we stayed at esmeralda because my wife would rather not go completely nude. but she likes to tan top-free and gets annoyed when the staff come by to clean rooms and manage the pool. i would like to stay at residence adam and eve if i can convince her the pool is longer (she likes to swim laps) and she can still just be top free without the annoyance of constant interruptions to put her top on. so am interested in what it is like at A&E if anyone can give me information about rooms and pool length.
as for orient beach, to which i walked each day, the nude activity is still down at the same end as the now defunct club o. all that is left of the club are destroyed buildings. they have the perch bar still which does a booming business in drinks and quick lunches (burgers, etc). they still have two-for-one happy hour in the early afternoon (12.30-2.30 if i remember correctly). the beach is packed and the chairs/umbrellas are still for rent. you can get a week's worth at a small discount if you pay in advance (in dollars, of course).
just past "the rocks" begins the non-nude beach, as usual. very few top free women on that end and i do not recall seeing any nudity there (and i walked it about twice a day). juicy fruits and adam and eve (the store not the residence) are still there although i did not go into to either of them. the beach bars are still flourishing on that end and they put of chairs and umbrellas for their clients. not sure if those close to the rocks still allow nudes hanging out at the old club o area to visit sans clothing.
restaurants in grand case are still going strong and the food is great.
nude morning walks seem limited. i was afraid to do it alone myself since i did not want to be the only one in that situation, but occasionally i did see some walking nude.
lengthy reply, i guess. but i tried to cover everything i could think of.
There is an ATM outside the shop in the naturist village of Charco De Pallo. Ive passed it many times but never used it, dont have pockets for my bank card .
I use the shop along with every other nudist there and most use contactless card or like me, Apple Pay.
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