Nudity & Sex - am I alone?
Return to DiscussionsAm I alone is saying that my nudism is not connected to my sexuality and sex per se?
My nudism and love of being nude is based on the following principles:
I love being nude and feeling the vulnerability and freedom that is delivered by being nude in the world.
I strongly appreciate nudity in all forms of art.
I enjoy being seen by other people who are also nude (i.e. being social within the community), and like the freedom to chose who these people are and this doesn't necessarily include my family or friends who are not nudies.
I like being nude in public spaces, that are appropriately allocated to nudism, and sometimes where its not if it doesn't put a legal risk in play.
BUT I don't believe any of these principles provide the entre to sexual expression, activity or discussion...
Am I alone in this ideology of nudism? Love to hear the views of others.
I sort of agree. However, for me if I am naked with a woman (I am straight) and it happens that we hit it off possibly because we are already nude and vulnerable then I think a sexual expression is not unreasonable or out of line. But only if it is mutual. For example, I have taken several women out there with me as nudist friends and with one there has been a sometimes rise in sexual expressions - but nothing acted on as of yet. We are going to Hippie Hollow as a nudist park some more so I guess time will tell. Just let whatever happens between two consenting nude adults happen. AustinJohn
You are not alone. Nudism is, I speak for myself here, communication/language. I personally want to communicate to everyone that this is me. I feel liberated, free, HAPPY, not forced to settle for anything, not judged or judge anyone and thrilled to be vulnerable but actually not vulnerable at all. I feel stronger and empowered when I'm wearing nothing. Clothing, to me, covers my armor which protects me better than anything on Earth. Nothing sexual about it for me at all. When I did it for the first time I asked someone at a resort for advice. He said, "Everyone here is naked. 2nd, nobody gives a F___. Enjoy the company"
BUT I don't believe any of these principles provide the entre to sexual expression, activity or discussion...Am I alone in this ideology of nudism? Love to hear the views of others.
I always roll my eyes at the idea that nudism or nudity is somehow divorced from sexuality. It's absurd. It's like saying we are allowed to be sexual until we happen to show up naked and then our sexuality is denied or taken from us. It's especially crazy regarding men since our sexuality is carried outside of our bodies, which makes us more vulnerable in social nudity. I think it's true that nudism can make our sexuality clinical and detached, but it doesn't deny it. Rather it affirms our inherent sexuality as beautiful and sufficient without having to dress it up and add armor. Nudity affirms our God-given sexuality not despite its vulnerability but because of it. And if you need clarification on this, take a look at Michelangelo's David sculpture. Isn't its power in its pure sexual form? Yet at the same time, sexuality is not the same as sexual behavior or engagement. People can be incredibly sexual in a positive way by showing up to life clothed and all, cocreating with God in life. I can't deny this vitality to anyone, anywhere, whether clothed in a burka or naked in a resort. We are sexual creatures, and it is good.
Seems to me that much of this discussion is based on semantics - the means of words and how we can interpret them differently from person to person and from situation to situation. By and large, it is male and female genitalia and women's breast which have to be covered to be considered "decent". When the whole body is freely exposed and visible in a social setting, that to me is 'true nudism or naturism'. Our genitals are our sex organs (although they are also vital for other functions as well, of course.) In other words, you acknowledge the equal value and give equal respect to the genitals etc as you do to all other body parts. But the sexual aspects of our personalities and bodies are not somehow surpressed by being naked. But by and large, and from my personal experience, natural self control and sense of decorum, prevail among true nudists.
As is so often the case in life we sometimes see complexities where the answers are perhaps inconveniently simple.I can honestly say that Im genuine about being a naturist and when I go I to naturist situations Im not looking for sex. But I also think that any notions that our sexuality is suspended when were naked with other naturists simply dont make sense. Ive been around other naturists for decades and Ive seen thousands of naked bodies but Ive never found the Sexuality Off Button on any body!In relinquishing body shame lets also address the elephant in the room .. or the pool or on the beach. sex shame. Sex isnt bad! Sexuality is beautiful. Im not suggesting that naturism and swinging are the same thing. Theyre not. But whats wrong with being a naturist who is also openly a normal human being?
Totally right!
It doesn't make sense to try to pretend that sexuality doesn't exist for Nudist . Or that in Nudist campsite in summer there si no sex ! Do you expect all campers all summer long to avoid any sex ?? Haha
Nudist should be body positive and not ashamed of manhood and natural feelings
So what is it people are saying here? That clothing the body removes sexuality or sexual tension? That a naked body automatically displays sexual tension or availability? The difference between a naked and clothed body is a piece of cotton rag.
Show a naked person the same respect you'd show your grandmother, be she draped or undraped. Engaging in sexual activity is a contract between two (or more) consenting adults. Nudists don't automatically present, or invite you to partake in sex contract with them, they're just not clothed. And if you can't understand the difference then you're not a nudist, you're just a sexual pervert or predator.
If you were at a textile family beach openly flaunting an erection in shear or loose fitting swimmers do you think bleating:
"What's wrong? I'm a male, and erections are natural." Do you think it would be considered acceptable behaviour? I think not! So what logic do you use to believe it is acceptable behaviour just because everyone is naked?
If you think that "dog in heat" behaviour in public is acceptable in any social setting, I suggest you see a sex therapist and stay away from nudists.
Horhej wrote:So what is it people are saying here? That clothing the body removes sexuality or sexual tension? That a naked body automatically displays sexual tension or availability? The difference between a naked and clothed body is a piece of cotton rag.
I would go so far as to say that clothing the body can enhance sexuality and sexual tension. Clothing calls attention to those parts that are revealed, as with plunging necklines or tight tee shirts, or by enhancing, as with bras that give breasts an unnatural lift. (Thankfully, our society has gone beyond codpieces.)
Women go to great lengths in choosing what to wear for a given occasion, and how much of their bodies they choose to reveal. Nudity takes all of that away, leaving them with nothing but what they really are shaped like.
I've wondered if that isn't a large part of why many women are reluctant to be seen naked in front of other people. They've created an image of their bodies based on what they can do to change or enhance it with clothing, an image designed to conform with the unrealistic expectations of the media... high, firm breasts without a hint of a sag, girdles to reduce the bulge of a stomach, high heels to enhance their buttocks, and so on. But when all that clothing is removed, they have to show their bodies as they really are. And I suspect that they're afraid of the reaction that they might face, especially in people who have seen them when they're clothed and have a different image of the women's bodies.
Men aren't exempt from that. They wear loose-fitting Hawaiian shirts to conceal a paunch, or tailored suits to enhance parts of their bodies. And many of them are insecure about the prospect of having their genitalia compared with that of other men, since society places a premium on well-endowed men. But I don't think clothing makes as much of a difference for them as it does for women.
Seems to me that much of this discussion is based on semantics - the means of words and how we can interpret them differently from person to person and from situation to situation. By and large, it is male and female genitalia and women's breast which have to be covered to be considered "decent". When the whole body is freely exposed and visible in a social setting, that to me is 'true nudism or naturism'. Our genitals are our sex organs (although they are also vital for other functions as well, of course.) In other words, you acknowledge the equal value and give equal respect to the genitals etc as you do to all other body parts. But the sexual aspects of our personalities and bodies are not somehow surpressed by being naked. But by and large, and from my personal experience, natural self control and sense of decorum, prevail among true nudists.
Always try to have self control when in naked company drinking coffee and chatting but it does seem to bob up and down sometimes! Have to watch I dont tip my cup over, that would make the eyes water a bit! LOL
Am I alone is saying that my nudism is not connected to my sexuality and sex per se?BUT I don't believe any of these principles provide the entre to sexual expression, activity or discussion...Am I alone in this ideology of nudism? Love to hear the views of others.
You may be hard pressed to see it if your only experience of nudism is this site. But contrary to what some try to project your perspective of nudity being separate from sexuality is actually a mainstream nudist perspective at least in the original philosophy. But over the years westerner who sexualize pretty much everything have sexualized nudity and nudism.
All that say in principle I share your view.