TN Picture Reform.

Please read the statement on the thread below, entitled "TN PICTURES, what IS acceptable?" If you agree with my take on things, please show your support by joining this group. ....................................................................................... I do not expect a mad rush, but it will be interesting to see just how many people have the sense to...

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TN picture reform/preservation groups ?
Come on, people !
Yeah, I've joined BOTH groups, largely to keep an eye on the OVER reactions on both sides, not because I either favor or oppose either one.
It seems to me that what we have here, is a *slightly* right of center objection to *some* of the obvious porn pictures apearing on this site, and a *slightly* left objection to what is pervceived as a witch hunt when it really isn't.
There are valid arguments on both "sides" of this non-issue.
BOTH sides use as evidence of their religiously fundamentalist stance, the guidlines posted by the site owner nearly two years ago, when the site first started.
BOTH sides make the argument, not it so many words, that some are new, and need guidance. Rather than offer guidance, we have a war of words. Much ado about nothing, in most cases.
There ARE photos in very, very clear violation of the guidlines originally posted, and remaining, by TT1. These scream for some kind of reform.
On the other hand, some of these photos TT1 has allowed to remain for quite some time. A year or more in some cases. This also screams for a clarification.
Do the "stated" rules mean anything at all ? By some examples, they don't mean anything. By others that have been removed, they do mean something.
Questionable and obvious porn photos WILL cause the casual visitor to conclude that a certain type of behaviour is welcome here. Maybe it is. *I* am not the site owner, administrator, or moderator. Whether these are desired is not for me to say, though I'd think not. What the site must inevitably become if they remain is clear.
Perhaps, just perhaps, these "appearance of evil" photos should be removed. The ONLY options WE have, is to flag them and let the owner decide, or to message that individual with a recomendation, which is usually met with confrontation and justification rather than a seeking of understanding.
Flagging is not the hammer of Thor. It is not the lightning of Zeus called down from the heavens to devastate the landscape, yet one of these groups would have one believe that it is, by some self-appointed dictator.
What flagging is, is merely a "hey boss, maybe you should check this out."
Maybe he does, and maybe he doesn't. He's unresponsive enough that we'll never really know.
Some say that these "groups" are shoving down the throats of others, some perceived site policy, when they are not. These groups are merely a response to a lack of clarification when it is asked, and required.
YES, newbies will make mistakes, and should be offered gentle clarification of what it means to be a nudist, and where the line might fall. They should not be shot at dawn for a misunderstanding. Likewise, obvious porn photos ( IMHO ) in a nudist, not a porn, environment, probably should be shot at dawn.
Unfortunately, over the last two years there has developed on this site a definite grey area, with no clear line.
It seems to me that BOTH of these groups are mostly folks massing for war, and ALL of them within the grey area, neither "side" having a definite, clearly understood knowledge of where a line might be, *if* there is one !
It seems to me, that NEITHER of these groups should exist, but that ALL of the members should really belong to a neutral group that seeks an understanding, not a religious fundamentalist jihad.
But, what do I know ?
Why is it these days that people rush to war, rather than reach understanding, and ultimately find that they are on the same page ?
Yes, this post appears in four places, because IMHO there is no clear "side" that I can take, yet I do believe my opinion ( just like anyone else ) is valid, and that my take just may have something to offer.

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RE: About these groups

Yes Curt, you are right. And I also agree with you.
But I want to add some points not now may be later.
Thank you,
Rim.

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