Had a home a few years ago where I was a full-time nudist in my house & backyard. Over the years, I rented a room to different housemates. Some were nudists, some not. I made it clear in the beginning that I would ALWAYS be nude, even when they would invite guests to come over. Not once did I ever have a problem with a clothed person concerning my nudity. Thats because its all about how I behaved. Im so comfortable with my naked body, and doing normal, everyday things, that my conduct put (clothed) people at ease. I was very sexual when I lived there, but I kept a hard line between that and my everyday nudity. If it wasnt a sexual situation, then I didnt act like it, nor ever got aroused. I even demonstrated a sex toy for a clothed, mixed group, at their request. It would normally be used when a man had an erection, but since it wasnt a sexual situation, I didnt have one. I told many people that social nudity and sexual behavior are completely separate things. I also imparted this adage:
Social nudity is not about SEEING or being SEEN.
Its about BEING nude.
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- ST
Nov 23, 2024[quote]And coming from a two month old account barely filled out no profile photo but credibility should be assumed. A puritanical nudist is an oxymoron.[/quote] I wouldnt know, Im blocked.ReactReply - SU
Nov 24, 2024The majority of textiles are under the impression, that because naturist/nudist men do not immediatly get arroused and have a ragung erection at the sight of a nude female, we are sexless drones!! This couldn't be further from the truth, it is completely false!! We are just as sexual as the rest of society, perhaps even more so because we see immediatly what we like, what turns us on and gets us excited but unlike textiles, instead of being disappointed in our partner's appearance when we see them undressed the first time, we know when it is appropriate to have sex, at the right time, in the right place, in the right environment, in the right circumstances, with the right partner or partners, etc.!!!
ReactReply - SUNov 24, 2024[quote]The majority of textiles are under the impression, that because naturist/nudist men do not immediatly get arroused and have a raging erection at the sight of a nude female, we are sexless drones!! This couldn't be further from the truth, it is completely false!! We are just as sexual as the rest of society, perhaps even more so because we see immediatly what we like, what turns us on and gets us excited but unlike textiles, instead of being disappointed in our partner's appearance when we see them undressed the first time, we know when it is appropriate to have sex, at the right time, in the right place, in the right environment, in the right circumstances, with the right partner or partners, etc.!!![/quote]ReactReply
- SUNov 24, 2024[quote]The majority of textiles are under the impression, that because naturist/nudist men do not immediatly get arroused and have a raging erection at the sight of a nude female, we are sexless drones!! This couldn't be further from the truth, it is wrong and completely false!! We are just as sexual as the rest of society, perhaps even more so because we immediatly see what we like, what turns us on and gets us excited but unlike textiles, instead of being disappointed in our partner's appearance when we see them undressed for the first time, we know when it is appropriate to have sex (either outercourse or entercourse), at the right time, in the right place, in the right environment, in the right circumstances, with the right partner or partners, etc.!!!ReactReply
- SUNov 24, 2024[quote]The majority of textiles are under the impression, that because naturist/nudist men do not immediatly get arroused and have a raging erection at the sight of a nude female, we are sexless drones!! This couldn't be further from the truth, it is completely untrue and false!! We are just as sexual as the rest of society, perhaps even more so because we see immediatly what we like, what turns us on and gets us excited but unlike textiles, instead of being disappointed in our partner's appearance when we see them undressed for the first time, we know when it is appropriate to have sex (outercourse or entercourse), at the right time, in the right place, in the right environment, in the right circumstances, with the right partner or partners, etc.!!!ReactReply
- SUNov 24, 2024
The majority of textiles are under the impression, that because naturist/nudist men do not immediatly get arroused and have a raging erection at the sight of a nude female, we are sexless drones!! This couldn't be further from the truth, it is completely wrong and false!! We are just as sexual as the rest of society, perhaps even more so because we see immediatly what we like, what turns us on and gets us excited but unlike textiles, instead of being disappointed in our partner's appearance when we see them undressed for the first time, we know when it is appropriate to have sex (outercourse and entercourse), at the right time, in the right place, in the right environment, in the right circumstances, with the right partner or partners, etc.!!!
ReactReply - EM
Nov 25, 2024[quote]The US continues to lose nudist beaches venues and I believe Australia has lost two nude beaches this year. Partly because anti nudism groups can use the behavior of a minority of men to blanket associate sexual behavior with all genuine nudists. I wonder wether its an Australian thing[/quote] I agree with you and believe a few are messing it up for the majority. My concern is if the majority are speaking out and calling the few out on their bad behaviors. When those of us acting appropriately see someone misbehaving, are we stepping up and calling them out? I may be wrong, but I imagine some people have mixed feelings when they see bad actions. They know that the action is wrong, but they also secretly enjoy it. Therefore, they are silent! I also know many people are fearful of violence, but if we want to continue to enjoy our freedoms, we must come against the wrongdoers! There should be a few "good" people in the midst who can gather together and approach the wrongdoer and tell him or her that their actions are not acceptable. If they refuse to stop or leave, call law enforcement. Now I know we don't normally want any law enforcement in our nudist areas. However, if we step up and involve them, it can also send a message throughout the community that we have standards and will not tolerate bad behaviors. Let some of these perverts catch a charge and have to register as a sex offender (which is what they are) and they may get the message!ReactReply - EMNov 25, 2024[quote]The majority of textiles are under the impression, that because naturist/nudist men do not immediatly get arroused and have a raging erection at the sight of a nude female, we are sexless drones!! This couldn't be further from the truth, it is completely wrong and false!! We are just as sexual as the rest of society, perhaps even more so because we see immediately what we like, what turns us on and gets us excited but unlike textiles, instead of being disappointed in our partner's appearance when we see them undressed for the first time, we know when it is appropriate to have sex (outercourse and entercourse), at the right time, in the right place, in the right environment, in the right circumstances, with the right partner or partners, etc.!!![/quote] One of my friends suffers from major erectile deficiency. One day he said something that made me burst out in laughter. He said that while at a nudist location, he could be just as horny and turned on as possible, but no one would ever know because his penis would remain flaccid. The male body (like the female body) is unique and operates in ways we sometimes don't desire. All males with erections are not sexually excited and all males with flaccid penises are not sexually dead!!! We must learn not to give the appearance of wrongdoing! Based on my knowledge, if you get erect, don't flaunt it, and definitely don't rub on it.ReactReply
- DA
Nov 25, 2024Separating social nudity from sexual nudityHow does one actually achieve the above? In the time we all live we've all grown up from youth in clothes. Here in the UK the Government made it law as far back as 1942 that everyone must wear clothes. Now generations have grown up in clothes and all my life I've seen couples changing partners and going about their lives doing as they please, no marriage just their own loose conduct, but its okay because millions do that sort of thing and its normal, but being naked especially if or where someone can see you either in or outside your home and then people say you are indecent? Who has the damn right to say that anybody in the nude is indecent! We're all created the same, male and female, and once your used to being around people naked, there really is no sexuality. Its just another experience that people don't have because its been taken away from them, so they think the human body is for sexual gratification only and must be falsely covered over at all other times, and if anyone see's you, heaven forbid, your indecent.ReactReply - STNov 27, 2024
If someone sees you naked its not the fault of god or the witness. Its always entirely the fault of the naked person.
The naked person has no control over how the witness will react regardless of that naked persons intention is. There is no argument here, being naked in a place where nudity is not accepted is not a social norm.
Nudists know this thats why nudist spaces like resorts, clubs and beaches exist.
Every time I read a post saying something like my neighbour is totally fine with my being naked in my garden. she even invited me over for coffee I tend to think that person is living in a fantasy world rather than this one.
ReactReply - HO
Nov 28, 2024Those people who whine about being considered indecent when the are naked in places where it is socially inappropriate should all get together and form their own society where they can be naked anywhere anytime and do anything.
Otherwise come back to the real world and recognize that whine does nothing flaunting social norms is harmful and supporting genuine non exhibitionist nudism is the best way to preserve dwindling social nudism spaces.
ReactReply - MI
Nov 28, 2024[quote]Separating social nudity from sexual nudity How does one actually achieve the above? In the time we all live we've all grown up from youth in clothes. Here in the UK the Government made it law as far back as 1942 that everyone must wear clothes. Now generations have grown up in clothes and all my life I've seen couples changing partners and going about their lives doing as they please, no marriage just their own loose conduct, but its okay because millions do that sort of thing and its normal, but being naked especially if or where someone can see you either in or outside your home and then people say you are indecent? Who has the damn right to say that anybody in the nude is indecent! We're all created the same, male and female, and once your used to being around people naked, there really is no sexuality. Its just another experience that people don't have because its been taken away from them, so they think the human body is for sexual gratification only and must be falsely covered over at all other times, and if anyone see's you, heaven forbid, your indecent.[/quote] I have read elsewhere that simple nudity in public is legal in the UK. but often not socially acceptable.ReactReply - STNov 28, 2024
I read elsewhere that there is one born every minute.
Now I have proof.
ReactReply - MINov 29, 2024[quote]I read elsewhere that there is one born every minute. Now I have proof.[/quote] Proof that my statement is true. greatbritishnaturism.co.uk/2020/07/18/is-public-nudity-legal/ReactReply
- HONov 29, 2024Curious why you would provide link to a blog rather than the official British Naturism (the national naturist association of Britain mostly England since the Scots and Ireland also have associations) for information on legal nudity in UK. They have free downloadable guides to the legality of public nudity including links to the most updated Crown Prosecution College of Policing guidelines. Easy google find of a more credible source than a blog site that bashes one of the most effective national naturist groups. [url][link]/link/923bc2b23c78c28a/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYm4ub3JnLnVrL2ZpbGVzL2ZpbGUvNzM5LWxlZ2FsLWd1aWRlcy1wdWJsaWMtcGxhY2UtbmF0dXJpc20v[/link]https://www.bn.org.uk/files/file/739-legal-guides-public-place-naturism/[/url] [quote]I read elsewhere that there is one born every minute.Now I have proof. Proof that my statement is true. greatbritishnaturism.co.uk/2020/07/18/is-public-nudity-legal/[/quote]ReactReply
- STNov 29, 2024
Hes not interested in reality, hed rather live in the wired world where the fantasy lie is preferable to him.
What he fails to understand, is, every nudist in the Uk including me, would be overjoyed if his fantasy land was real, but its not.
For further proof, ask David who posted previously all about his troubles with Legal Nudity.
ReactReply - MINov 29, 2024[quote]Hes not interested in reality, hed rather live in the wired world where the fantasy lie is preferable to him. What he fails to understand, is, every nudist in the Uk including me, would be overjoyed if his fantasy land was real, but its not. For further proof, ask David who posted previously all about his troubles with Legal Nudity. [/quote] So you are saying that all of the sites that say public nudity is often legal in the UK are lying?ReactReply
- STNov 29, 2024
No, you are mistaking legality and reality.
You can attend nudist events, but you cant go shopping for short shorts nude and not expect to end up in a police cell.
Read up on it, as HCF suggested. Keep it real. Not fantasy.
ReactReply - DANov 29, 2024[quote]No, you are mistaking legality and reality. You can attend nudist events, but you cant go shopping for short shorts nude and not expect to end up in a police cell. Read up on it, as HCF suggested. Keep it real. Not fantasy.[/quote] Your so wrong on so many levels here. All my problems started when the report of nudity was made and the public having been mislead into believing that nudity is indecent by the police for so long. In my community now the public now know that nudity is not illegal. It took time for the police to catch up on the law. Yes believe it or not most police officers understand very little about the law in the UK, they are told make enquiries, make arrests and the lawyers will decide what they want to be right or wrong. We tested the police with regards this very subject of nudity, yes we tested them more than once. Here is what we did... We arrange that is me and a couple of women to make a complaint about me being naked outside in my garden. Here is what happend. The first woman made a phone call to the police advising that a man was in his garden naked. The police on the phone asked her, what is he dojng, she said nothing he looks to be putting something or taking something out the rear of his car boot. The police advised, he's doing nothing wrong, then the woman said, but he's naked outside where people can see him, and the police said, there is no law against being naked outside, we can't anything about that. A few days later we did the same again, the second lady made a complaint, the same procedure, the police advised her, he's doing nothing wrong its not illegal to be naked outside. On a third occassion the police followed me in my car while driving naked, the police asked me a couple of questions concerning my well being, once he was okay with my health, the police officer said, you can go on your way. I can't stress enough that human nature at the time we live turns anything from natural nudity automatically into a sex crime when a naked person is seen by another person. The reason for that is because the police have lied to the public for some long that people have accepted all the wrong ideas about this subject. Parlament in the UK overturned the police decisions about naturism and nudity and the law was changed in 2003 UK. Nudism and naturism is legal everywhere in the UK. People don't widely know about it and the police still lie about it to people, but the more it is published and the more people know about it,the less power the police have to punish innocent people.ReactReply
- STNov 29, 2024
Im not wrong David.
I am a naturist, and I practice nudism as much as I can. But I make damn sure I dont involve anyone else who doesnt share my lifestyle.
My neighbours dont call the police on me being legally naked because I chose not to involve them.
ReactReply - HONov 29, 2024This is the issue right here there are people who have adopted the idea that nudity is nudism or naturism. Being naked doesnt make you a naturist or nudist just as being in a garage doesnt make you a car. If you read the actual police guidance and BN legal guide if you are nude with the intent to offend you can be arrested and charge. It not just a matter of getting naked anywhere anyhow. BN encourages public nudity in group settings rather than solo nakedness to avoid the question of intent. So again it a matter of not everything that is allowable is acceptable. [quote] I am a naturist, and I practice nudism as much as I can. But I make damn sure I dont involve anyone else who doesnt share my lifestyle. [/quote]ReactReply
- DADec 1, 2024[quote]This is the issue right here there are people who have adopted the idea that nudity is nudism or naturism. Being naked doesnt make you a naturist or nudist just as being in a garage doesnt make you a car. If you read the actual police guidance and BN legal guide if you are nude with the intent to offend you can be arrested and charge. It not just a matter of getting naked anywhere anyhow. BN encourages public nudity in group settings rather than solo nakedness to avoid the question of intent. So again it a matter of not everything that is allowable is acceptable. I am a naturist, and I practice nudism as much as I can. But I make damn sure I dont involve anyone else who doesnt share my lifestyle.[/quote] But... if your in your own private land fenced off then you should not be stalked by neighbours. Hiding behind your upstairs window curtains using a camera phone directly aimed into your neighbours garden to record and pass evidence of nakedness to the police and other neighbours does NOT make a nude person wrong, it makes the neighbours and the police wrong. When I spoke to the police they showed me a picture taken taken by my neighbour stood in their garden focused on my house windows. Absolutely nothing there to see, just a picture of my window and some background viewing in the picture of inside the room, but no human being in the room. Then there is the camera footage, directly focused into my private land. When none of that so called evidence worked for the police, they went out there way after arresting a known woman to me to get her to say in writing that she had seen me walking round the local streets naked chasing neighbours children. The police complaints department couldn't get this case off there hands fast enough, not wanting criminal proceedings brought against the police, where the woman gave evidence against the police. Please don't lecture me about right and wrong, we all have a conscience, we all know right from wrong, but the most natural normal way of life, that being the human naked body whether indoors or outdoors is not illegal under any man made laws anywhere as far as I'm concerned. God made each one of us in his image, male and female. The problem you have with the human beings now is twofold... 1/ A lot of men can't control their desires, and 2/ Police have a large organisation of people who have told the human race that your bodies are indencent and have been punishing people since around 1942. Why do you think there are organisations around the world campaining against law makers for peoples human rights, such as BN in the UK. Yes there has to be agreements and standards, but since when do men in law who legislate for their own kind have the right to tell the human race what is right and wrong, when they are morally corrupted themselves, and yes they are, changing their laws to suit themselves and their purposes. I'm also not wrong on this, I too have a lot of experience understanding corruption from men in power who think they are right.ReactReply
- HODec 1, 2024
SMH there is it is the victim mentality.
This what happens whenever these sexual libertines masquerading as naturists get engaged with rational logical arguments that dont align with their desire to pursue their desires regardless of the impact it has on others. They want to convince everyone that all nudity is the same a nudism and naturism despite facts and information to the contrary. When confronted with a different perspective suddenly they get all whiny and instead of addressing the issue or facts they start accusing others who doesn't agree of trying to make them feel bad or wrong. Whats that saying "If the shoe fits".
ReactReply - BR
Dec 19, 2024[quote]Separating social nudity from sexual nudityHow does one actually achieve the above?In the time we all live we've all grown up from youth in clothes. Here in the UK the Government made it law as far back as 1942 that everyone must wear clothes. Now generations have grown up in clothes and all my life I've seen couples changing partners and going about their lives doing as they please, no marriage just their own loose conduct, but its okay because millions do that sort of thing and its normal, but being naked especially if or where someone can see you either in or outside your home and then people say you are indecent? Who has the damn right to say that anybody in the nude is indecent! We're all created the same, male and female, and once your used to being around people naked, there really is no sexuality. Its just another experience that people don't have because its been taken away from them, so they think the human body is for sexual gratification only and must be falsely covered over at all other times, and if anyone see's you, heaven forbid, your indecent. I have read elsewhere that simple nudity in public is legal in the UK. but often not socially acceptable.[/quote] You are right, basic nudity is permitted under Law in the UK, it is easy enough to research the information and print it off. If you are nude in your own garden and the neighbour tries to get you arrested for indecency, they can't, as they would have to prove that you were being indecent, the cops can't just take their word for it, it has to be proved. So if they said they took pictures of you, they are breaking the law with regards to Invasion if Privacy. If a cop tried to arrest you in indecency charges, he would be laughed out of court. As long as you are not flaunting yourself, as in waving your penis about or touching yourself inappropriately (other than scratching an itch in the groin area), there is NOTHING you can be arrested for.ReactReply