I'm impressed with the good and intelligent discussion on this topic (unless I missed something earlier), some other topics here can get some angry words and aggresive barbs thrown around. It's great this can be discussed and it seems we are generally more accepting here. The labels gay / straight are accepted, maybe that's because as nudists we can be wary about saying that to others / non-nudists, ie. we are nudists, which does not mean we are pervs or whatever others think happens at a resort or nude beach. Labels on one hand can be problematic in our world as they can be used against us or to categorise us, here it seems less so and more accepting. Our world through the media and society like to label people / groups and often blame is thrown broadly at a group if something goes wrong. That's lazy media work usually and can create awful flow on effects against minorities. Labels do matter to help identify but provided they are understood and respected I think it's OK to use them.
. Our world through the media and society like to label people / groups and often blame is thrown broadly at a group if something goes wrong. That's lazy media work usually and can create awful flow on effects against minorities.
On the rare occasions when a person is nude when committing a crime, it seems like the media always notes the lack of clothing.
Same for the much more common situation when a shirtless man breaks a law,
. On the rare occasions when a person is nude when committing a crime, it seems like the media always notes the lack of clothing.Same for the much more common situation when a shirtless man breaks a law,
Perceptive.
But
Police appealing for witnesses say they are looking for a short man wearing cargo shorts a black and white striped shirt and a black beret.
Descriptions happen like that all the time. Nude robbery might be rare but the descriptions are not.
When it comes to people, labels shouldn't really matter but we like to be able to categorise and pigeon-hole others to help us understand them better and work out how we relate to them. The challenge with labels are the biases and assumptions they carry, and also that many are used perjoratively. We can't live without labels but as long as we understand that they are not black and white when it comes to people, we can start to see beyond them and appreciate people are multi-faceted with lots of different, and sometimes even contradictory dimensions. Do labels matter? I think they can be useful but no, I don't think they matter. People matter, not labels.
In an ideal world labels may not be needed but in the real world human beings like to categorize maybe even need to in order to develop mental shortcuts used in social interactions. Its why one of the first things that comes up in a new encounter is what do you do? Its a way to categorize or label and individual.When it comes to people, labels shouldn't really matter but we like to be able to categorise and pigeon-hole others to help us understand them better and work out how we relate to them. The challenge with labels are the biases and assumptions they carry, and also that many are used perjoratively. We can't live without labels but as long as we understand that they are not black and white when it comes to people, we can start to see beyond them and appreciate people are multi-faceted with lots of different, and sometimes even contradictory dimensions. Do labels matter? I think they can be useful but no, I don't think they matter. People matter, not labels.
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