First of all, the question "Why so many gay guys?" could be turned around: "Why so few straight guys?" To me, that is a more interesting question: how come so many straight guys (and gals) are brought up to be non-naturists, and continue being non-naturists all their lives?Secondly, I believe part of the answer is to be found in the experiences of youth. Lots of straight people grow up without ever being naked with people of the opposite sex. Thus, being naked with people of the opposite sex (which is, for them, also the people they are sexually interested in), become associated with shame and with sexuality. I have straight friends who claim that they do not dare to go to a nude beach out of a fear that they will get an erection when they see a naked person of the opposite sex. Moreover, there is a social stigma connected to naturism in many localities.For gays, the situation is quite different. Gay men grow up being naked with people of the same sex all the time. Thus, they learn the easy way that being naked together with people they may be sexually attracted to, is not really connected to sex. Also, gay men learn, through hours of locker room time through their youth, that they will not get an erection simply by seeing a naked person of the same sex. Or if they do, it's not too difficult to hide it in most circumstances. Going to a nude beach is no big deal, as nudity is already normal. (Of course, adding some nude women to the mix of people they see is not going to cause trouble.) Also, out gay men have already faced a bigger social stigma than naturism, and have made the decision to be themselves, in spite of the social consequences. Then, "coming out" as a naturist is not such a big deal.So my maybe controversial opinion is that gay men (and women) grow up having a more healthy relationship to their bodies than straight men (and women), as straight people are brought up to believe that being naked with people of the sex that you are sexually attracted to, is shameful and frightening. (Of course, I'm not talking on an individual basis, there will be lots and lots of exceptions to this "rule".)What are other explanations for why there are so few straight people here?
I have had similar thoughts about why nudity appears to be more common among gay men.
While gay men appear to be overrepresented, there are still plenty of straight people on this site.
There is nothing wrong if there are alot of men that are gay in this site. I know many gay men that enjoy being nude as well. Just as a straight male nudist doesn't get excited in the nudist setting around people because it not about being sexual, would be the same for a gay male as well. No matter what each preference is we are all here for the same thing, the joy of being and living nude as well as experiencing the nudist lifestyle with others.
Not trying to be provocative or anything.... but why are there so many nude gay guys in TN? I'm not uncomfortable with it, it's the same at beaches. I just always wonder why. Is there a larger proportion of nudists gay than in the overall community?
I'm coming in late to this discussion, and had to read the previous four pages to catch up.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that embracing public nudism is a form of "coming out" in the sense that you've been this nudist person all your life, or lately come to the realization that you are that person. You've kept it hidden all these years, but now it's time to let the world know who you are and what you are, and ask it to judge you not on your clothes or lack of it, but simply on the person you are.
Isn't that a lot like gay people "coming out?"
And since gay people have already undergone the ordeal of the process, it may be easier for them to do it again as they embrace nudism as a life style. They think "Well, if I could do that, I can do this."
I'm not equating homosexuality with a "life style" the way many clueless commentators do. I know it's deeper than that ... it's not something gay people choose to be, but something they are. But from what I, a straight person, have gleaned from reading about, and talking with, gay people about the process of "coming out," there seems to be a lot of similarity.
So gay people go to nudist events to see guys without clothes. I daresay that straight men go to nudist events to see ladies without clothes, at least at first. But as they familiarize themselves with naturism as a way of looking at life, they usually discard those motivations.
I'm not gay, and I am not at all interested in the lifestyle, but also not opposed to socializing with guys who swing that way. Just as long as being gay does not solely define them (like being a militant gay activist), then we're fine. If someone comes off as a militant gay activist, I go the other way. Same as anyone who has some kind of political or social axe to grind. I have no time for that.
With that said, I hadn't really noticed the disproportionate number of gay men here until your post caused me to look around through new lenses. You're right. This site appears to be mostly gay men, and that also might explain some of the threads and titles that dominate the forums here.
I'm not sure that this site is truly mostly gay men, although I expect that most of the people who post on this particular thread are gay. As for the rest, it's interesting how many men identify themselves as "bi-curious" or "bisexual." From what I've gathered from their posts, they are often older men who always thought they were straight until they got into their fifties and sixties and found themselves re-evaluating their inclinations.
And my experience with younger men is that they're far more likely to come out as gay or bi now than young men did a generation or two ago. There are more role models around to emulate on TV, the movies, or in politics, and there's less of a stigma attached to it. I consider that a very good thing.
What I'm wondering is how many of the "gay" or "bi" posters on this site are really straight men trying on this identity for size to see what reaction they get. Like that cartoon of a dog looking at a computer monitor and saying, "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."
Not sure of actual numbers but have to agree that there are a lot more gay men visiting, becoming members and visiting our profile page. This truly isn't one of those... "I'm not prejudice, I have black, mexican, asian... friends, I'm not homophobic, I have LBGT friends...", responses. As a very young adult, being gay was something you kept several arms distance away from and if you wanted to really get under someone's skin, you made reference to them being gay.
Oddly enough, the military was my first introduction to becoming friends with someone who was gay. I was engaged and he was attached to someone at home. We knew each other's boundaries and we respected those. I met a few other gay guys he befriended when we were stationed in San Francisco. They were good people.
I've always said that you should be careful about what you think or say because it'll come back to bite you in the ass. Case in point, two very close male friends, one textile and one nudist, each have a son that is gay. They, too, are really good people but they made many, many comments about gays and their sons were listening to their jokes and jabs and later came out to their parents about their sexuality. The damage was done and it took them quite a while to repair the damage. I have gay and lesbian relatives. They bring their partners to our family functions and we love and respect them. They are good people.
I get a ton of gay guys coming to visit our profile. Why, I don't know. I usually Block them. Why? Because they visit multiple times and never leave a message about why they are visiting. Why visit a person's profile 6, 8, 10 times and never type a word about why you're visiting a person's profile. It's just creepy. AND.... before I get flamed... the same goes for any Straight guy, Straight couple, Straight woman.... or anyone else who visits our profile page repeatedly and never introduces themselves or explains why they need to visit the page multiple times. They may be good people but it never goes any further than them visiting our profile multiple times.
Why? Because they visit multiple times and never leave a message about why they are visiting. Why visit a person's profile 6, 8, 10 times and never type a word about why you're visiting a person's profile. It's just creepy. They might be refreshing their memory by reading your profile information again. I do that sometimes. I think I've actually been blocked by a couple of people for it, which is a shame because a couple of them seemed like decent folks, and there were no creepy intentions on my part. Just a crappy short term memory. Can you tell if they are looking at your media or just looking at your profile? Because if you can, that might be a good way to measure the "creep-factor" if you feel like bothering with the effort.
You may be right, for those visiting a few times but it still seems weird and creepy that you visit a person's profile 8-10 times and do so every 5-10 mins and still not either comment or at least hit the like button of your profile. NO communication still sends up a red flag for us.
All our photos are "friends or certified friends only". That doesn't mean that they still can't see them before they are approved by Photo Mods and that green screen goes up. I think the site Administrators' handling of the entire photo situation is bizarre. We'll continue to show our friends our nudist life through pictures but will not open our photos up for Public view. We've already de-friended some that were only friends for the pictures... which seems strange to us. A lot younger and more fit nudist photos on the internet! ;D