RE:Cited for indecent exposure!

Get a lawyer! And ask this stupid "officer" who the heck it was that you were "exposing" yourself to! BTW, "officers" don't count, so don't let him talk you into that one. Tell him you want to see the federal statute that makes simple nudity illegal, and then you want to see the same thing for Florida! Hint: Years ago the Florida Supreme Court ruled that "nude is not lewd," so unless you were masturbating or doing something stupid, what you were don't was NOT illegal. Get a lawyer! He/she should be able to take care of this crap my a simple motion to dismiss.

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You wrote:Get a lawyer! ....

Perhaps you missed the part where the OP said he cannot afford a lawyer.

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You wrote:Get a lawyer! ....Perhaps you missed the part where the OP said he cannot afford a lawyer.

But as noted elsewhere, AANR or some more local similar group might be willing to help.

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You wrote:Get a lawyer! ....Perhaps you missed the part where the OP said he cannot afford a lawyer.But as noted elsewhere, AANR or some more local similar group might be willing to help.

Exactly. As I posted above, this is why NAC exists. They will review your case, advise, provide names of local lawyers who are educated on the issues, and defray if not completely cover the cost. The OP is already going to spend at least $500 on the fine, why not spend it on a lawyer? NAC will advise on probability of winning/losing based on the facts and what was actually charged, actual law, case law, etc. It doesn't hurt to get legitimate advice. They may also be able to get it reduced to something innocuous (a conservation charge with a $50 fine). The issuing officer is presenting things from his view (which may or may not be well informed, and may or may not be in the OPs best interest). In my case cited above two of the main factors in winning were no valid complainant who was "offended" and Hawaii case law that says the complainant cannot be the police themselves. Another was that the specific beach was well known for skinny dipping for decades, and the original cited complaint that the police used to raid the beach was more than a year old, and was for lewd activity, not simple nudity. I don't know what the law (written or case) is in Florida, but NAC will. Get legitimate advise from someone who can actually give legitimate advise before making any rash decisions.

John aka cobeachbum

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RE:Cited for indecent exposure! Me too!

Yours is similar to a hiker. It happened a long time ago.

A hiker in Yosemite(Central California) decided to take a dip(Yes, he was naked) in a very secluded area after a long hike.

An officer inside the park saw him, approached him, and told him to get dressed. He complied.

The officer reached for the ticket book.

Similar to yours, it was a $500 fine.

Before the officer could write the ticket, he asked the officer "Did somebody file a complaint?"

The officer said "No."
The officer let him go with a verbal warning.

He was familiar with the policy in that area.

An officer cannot write a ticket unless someone else, besides the officer, filed a complaint.

You may want to ask/call that officer in Florida: "Officer, did somebody file a complaint when you wrote the ticket?"

Just ask. There's nothing wrong in asking.

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If you do go to court, I would ask who is the victim? Anybody? A trail camera? The FWC officer? I don't believe either the camera or officer have "standing" in this case as it applies to a victim. Just a thought. Sorry to hear they are using game cameras to ticket nudists.

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Thanks everyone for the input and suggestions. As mentioned earlier I can't really afford a lawyer right now unless it costs less than the ticket. So I've reached out to AANR and will hope they have a solution that covers all of my concerns, before I just go ahead and pay the fine.

I do believe the officer was correct in saying that because this is a federal court ticket, it is not likely to make it onto my record as long as it is paid on time. I specifically asked if it would be on my record if I paid it, and he said typically it has to make it into state court before that happens.

I'll post again once I hear from AANR and make a final decision. Thanks again!

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Thanks everyone for the input and suggestions. As mentioned earlier I can't really afford a lawyer right now unless it costs less than the ticket. So I've reached out to AANR and will hope they have a solution that covers all of my concerns, before I just go ahead and pay the fine.I do believe the officer was correct in saying that because this is a federal court ticket, it is not likely to make it onto my record as long as it is paid on time. I specifically asked if it would be on my record if I paid it, and he said typically it has to make it into state court before that happens.I'll post again once I hear from AANR and make a final decision. Thanks again!

Did you consider that the whole thing is a scam and someone saw your car and you nude near it and is trying to get some easy cash from you?

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Did you consider that the whole thing is a scam and someone saw your car and you nude near it and is trying to get some easy cash from you?

For any legitimate citation, it will come in the mail. Any payment will be made to the courthouse of an official government agency. After the above comment, I am concerned that the "conservation officer" called you. That is highly unusual. If you don't get anything in the mail, ignore it. If you are concerned, most jurisdictions have the ability to check on-line or by calling a number. I would make sure it's legitimate before making any payment and check the address it is being sent to. Under no circumstances make payment by untraceable means.

There should also be some method of free legal advice in your area. Call the public defenders office in either your jurisdiction or where the citation was allegedly written, and they should be able to check the legitimacy of the charge.

John aka cobeachbum

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cobeachbum wrote:Did you consider that the whole thing is a scam and someone saw your car and you nude near it and is trying to get some easy cash from you?(snip)John aka cobeachbum

On page two, the OP wrote: "Here's the code on the ticket..." so, I presume that means he physically has the ticket in hand, and that would mean it was likely mailed to him.

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