"Urban non-landed" nudist events; and the future of nudism.
So my wife and I went to an "urban non-landed" nudist club event. Usually my wife will categorically refuse to be naked standing shoulder to shoulder with other nudists, in a crowded enclosed space. But she was actually easily swayed by the fact that that she was interested in the actual event; and the venue was literally 15 mins down the street.
It was a lot of fun. Those who know, know. Everyone else can figure it out for themselves (yes I'm being cheeky lol!).
It also got me thinking, as these things usually do. There are some who believe this "style" of nudism is where the future of nudism resides. And it makes sense, to some degree. Anyone living in the city could have gotten there via public transportation or Uber/Lyft; probably in less than 30 mins. People could come and go as they wished. The "entrance fee" also provided food and drink - in abundance. This all made social nudism much more accessible than the more "traditional" 90+ min. car ride to a remote nudist venue, the check-in process, having to wait to be given a tour, etc...
But, it also comes with some caveats.
The "ratio" was probably somewhere in the vicinity of 75-80% male. My wife expected it, so she wasn't put off and didn't hesitate to get naked. And the seating arrangements made it easy for her to not find herself "crowded" by naked males. But I think we know how women generally feel about being nude amongst a predominately male crowd...
I don't know if the event was "technically" clothing-optional; but it didn't matter anyway. All but one woman were naked, and she was wearing see-through garments with her boobs hanging out (a lot to unpack there, but anyway...). So if someone would have preferred and "gradual acclimatization", they would have found it difficult there; being in a very crowded room with all nude people.
The average age was about the same as my resort. Just looking around me, there were certainly more grey hairs. So as far as "urban non-landed" nudism attracting younger people...perhaps to a lesser extent than some might imagine.
All of this doesn't take away from the fact that my wife and I had fun. As a matter of fact we are already planning our next event. But is it something that will eventually replace "traditional" nudism in the future? I think it's its "own thing"; and some nudists will enjoy being able to enjoy social nudity close to home. Others will still prefer nature.
The point is you both had fun, felt safe and enjoyed it as an aspect of social nudity. As it was more gray hairs, is this the kind of event that could draw younger generations? Thinking from my sons' perspective, my answer is probably not. Young adults will meet with their friends on their terms. My reading of their generational values is that they're a lot less uptight than we perceive them to be regarding freedom from pants, but much more discerning regarding what feels appropriate and safe to them. They seem more drawn to activities with activity, freedom and anonymity, such as naked bike rides. Since my unchaperoned by a woman sons were verboten males at local nudist resorts since they were born, they're unlikely to ever be drawn to anything with a nudist label.
Not sure if it's the way of the future, maybe just another potentially appealing option. I personally would have no issue with it, but people like my wife are terrified of the idea of so many people in such a close environment. That being said, if the event had activities that were appealing to her im sure she would be more open, as being in nature doesn't always offer variability in excitement. I'm going to have to mull this over with her
Just went to an event like this last weekend. Indoor nude pool party I the middle of housing development on the outskirts of a city.
I agree with your point may not be the exclusive future but rather another way that people not able to access venues can participate in social nudist activity. I think we need both because more opportunities are better than less.Not sure if it's the way of the future, maybe just another potentially appealing option. I personally would have no issue with it, but people like my wife are terrified of the idea of so many people in such a close environment. That being said, if the event had activities that were appealing to her im sure she would be more open, as being in nature doesn't always offer variability in excitement. I'm going to have to mull this over with her
I think we need both because more opportunities are better than less.
Agreed 100%.Since Di and I are polar opposites, I think she's a hard pass on that type of event here.
I don't blame her one bit. There were supposedly about 70 people (I didn't take the time to count lol!) in a room probably about the size of your garage. Luckily, my wife has enough experience being naked in close proximity to other people through our connections at nudist resorts; so it wasn't as daunting to her. But it's definitely not for everyone. Hence the relatively small amount of women there.
There were supposedly about 70 people (I didn't take the time to count lol!) in a room probably about the size of your garage.
Even if you are comfortable with the nudity, in this post-pandemic world you might not be comfortable with the crowding.
On last months nude cruise we went to the nightly deck parties. Even though they were up on the pool deck the retractable roof was partially closed, limiting the airflow. It was very packed with people dancing and we were right there with everyone. I thought there was no way we were getting off the ship without catching COVID or at least some other cold or flu. Amazingly we didnt catch anything but if we werent on a vacation and this was just a Saturday night urban get together and indoors, Im not sure we would stay.
The dances at our resort are crowded, but they are in an outdoor pavilion open on three sides to let the air in. Probably more open than the ship was when the roof was partially closed. And when we do go to house parties with our unlanded group, it is more laid back and less crowded.
They are technically the same from a AANR category standpoint. But from a natourism perspective resorts have more amenities and are usually more upscale and less rustic.What is the difference between a landed club and a resort?
minimalist wrote:What is the difference between a landed club and a resort?
It's mostly a difference of degree, I think. All of the "landed clubs" I've been to have a sizeable number of people who live there full time, and have limited accommodations for visitors. They usually don't advertise their presence, relying instead on word of mouth. If they have restaurants, gift shops, and such, they're usually staffed by volunteers and are open only on weekends and special events.
Resorts, on the other hand, have visitors as their primary focus and advertise in the same manner that other resorts do. They have (or at least try to have) fuller services like dining and maybe athletic facilities and such on a regular basis. (Bear in mind that some of them have been dealt a severe blow from the Covid pandemic, when tourism dropped significantly.) They have a paid staff for administration, pool maintenance, groundskeeping, housekeeping, and all the other responsibilities of a resort with hotel facilities.
But, as I said, there isn't any great demarcation between the two categories. Instead, it's up to the organization to label itself as one or the other.
What is the difference between a landed club and a resort?
Amenities. A landed club may be nothing more than space, though probably a pool at minimum. As you start adding more types of activities, you get closer to the "resort" moniker. A resort will usually have a full service full-time restaurant, full service hotel, tennis courts, pickle ball courts, i.e. lots of various activities. The distinction can be blurred middle of the road.
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nudony wrote:So my wife and I went to an "urban non-landed" nudist club event. Usually my wife will categorically refuse to be naked standing shoulder to shoulder with other nudists, in a crowded enclosed space. But she was actually easily swayed by the fact that that she was interested in the actual event; and the venue was literally 15 mins down the street.All of this doesn't take away from the fact that my wife and I had fun. As a matter of fact we are already planning our next event. But is it something that will eventually replace "traditional" nudism in the future? I think it's its "own thing"; and some nudists will enjoy being able to enjoy social nudity close to home. Others will still prefer nature.
I'd heard that some colleges have sorority/fraternity parties where the participants are naked, in an atmosphere where sexual displays are discouraged, but they are invited to experiment with being nude in a social environment. That seems like a good step.
And in my own experience, I lived in a house where we had a hot tub, and we invited several people in our larger social circle of work and play to come over for a dip. We were all in our twenties and thirties. We never required swimwear, and every participant was happy to get naked and join the fun. That was also the case for the other people in our circle who had hot tubs or pools. I remember having some people from Sweden over, and they remarked that social nudity was so common there, and so uncommon here, that they were pleasantly surprised to find our home so nude-friendly.
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