.Somewhere on TN I read, that to post a picture of a standing male, the penis needs to be below 9:00. Or for a laying down shot it needs to be laying against the body
If that was posted anywhere conspicuous, I missed it. It's not mentioned in the Gallery rules that pop up when you want to post a picture. I don't know where else it could be.
Woody are you saying Old School is socialising naked and New School is socialising naked with a boner sometimes. Is that the difference.?
Our Swedish friends think a single boner trying to socialise would be most hysterical (their words) and they say they are not aware of new nudism.
StevieLorna wrote:Woody are you saying Old School is socialising naked and New School is socialising naked with a boner sometimes. Is that the difference.?
And Jehoram replied:Speaking only for myself, because I'm the one who proposed this dichotomy, I think that the difference between the two is that the "New School" is confined to close friends and sometimes business associates. It's informal. It's not a situation where you go to meet people you're not already acquainted with. Hence, no clubs, no resorts, no rules. (The exception might be a local "swimming hole" where you might encounter strangers from time to time. But that place is similarly unregulated.)That's why it's "underground" as Woodsman terms it. The Naturist clubs don't know about them, and most of them don't know about the Naturist clubs.
What he said. I guess I didn't make the distinction clear. We're associating with these people anyway, and we'd be doing it whether they were clothed or naked. We get naked when there's a point to being naked, like in pools or hot tubs or when we feel like it. Whereas the whole point of going to a naturist club, as I understand it, is to associate with people while naked, whether you know them personally or not. At least that seemed to be the attitude at the FKK functions I attended in Europe back in the day.
This old-school/new-school thing is not the kind of thing that gets discussed at naturist resorts or clubs, but pops on sites like this where there's a lot of crossover. Take all the people who post here and, even if you strip away all the spammers and people who come here for information on sex or to look at pictures of "nekkid wimmen", I'll bet you'll find that there are still a lot of people who dig the naturist style but aren't affiliated with local clubs or established groups like the Naturist Society, AANR, or whatever you have in Britain or they have where they live. There may not be any local clubs where they are, and they're not joiners by nature. (I'm kind of in that boat myself regarding the local club, since they're not taking members right now. I'll be joining the Naturist Society as a benefit of membership at that club when they re-open.)
Ok I think Ive got it now.
There is no old/new school, that was just invented a few days ago.
If you are at a formal place, beach, resort, club then no boners.
If you are informal with friends and business associates then boner fine, but only if you are American in America.
Is that for every state? I now know you guys are mobile so it might matter.
Ok I think Ive got it now.There is no old/new school, that was just invented a few days ago.
I agree that social nudism has been around a long, long time. And there were clubs and resorts, and then there were people who weren't in clubs and didn't go to resorts. That's a given.
So what made things different now? For one thing, the Internet and social media. It's brought a few of the latter kind together in a way that couldn't happen easily before. Now all us "free-range nudists" can communicate with each other. (Since you didn't like Jehoram's terminology, I'll propose this one instead.) We can read the posts that other free-range nudists make on web sites like this one. We can email our friends, and we can learn about the counter-culture and its attitudes and see what still fits into that in our present lives. We can do "flash" nude events via Twitter, in the same way folks generate flash crowds.
For another thing, it's the rise of personal hot tubs and swimming pools, at least here in California. They're far more commonplace now than thirty years or so ago, giving more occasions for "free range" social nudism.If you are at a formal place, beach, resort, club then no boners.If you are informal with friends and business associates then boner fine, but only if you are American in America.
Agreed, except for the last part. If you're in a situation where people don't have a problem with it, you can do it, too! At least, that's what I'm taking from other people's posts here.Is that for every state? I now know you guys are mobile so it might matter.
Damned if I know. I haven't been nude in every state (it's a damn big country, you know). I have been "free range nude" in California, Florida, New Mexico, and parts of the eastern seaboard. Friends of mine have been "free range" in Arizona and upstate New York. Elsewhere, people are more conservative in general, and there probably isn't much of it, or at least they're good at keeping it "under the radar" of common society.
Masturbate before you get naked with people.It will help,. Sometimes.
True. Sometimes you have to. And sometimes you don't.
The discussion here is whether you should or shouldn't have to.
But when in Rome, do as the Romans do, right?
Ok I think Ive got it now.There is no old/new school, that was just invented a few days ago.If you are at a formal place, beach, resort, club then no boners.If you are informal with friends and business associates then boner fine, but only if you are American in America.Is that for every state? I now know you guys are mobile so it might matter.
Good question it amazing how folks simply make up stuff to justify false assertions.
I think Ive mentioned elsewhere that in 20 years weve never noticed an erection at a beach or resort. So its not a big problem in Europe at least, weve never been naturist in America it may be different there.
Can you define what an inoffensive erection is, and how do you tell?
Young people dont want to hang around with old people in any walk of life, this is not a new thing. So when they get older theyll hang around with people whove grown older with them.
J, I understand that for offence to be taken someone has to feel offended. How does the boner know no one will be?
Or, as our European friends indicated, find it most hilarious, and should the ensuing laughter have a detrimental effect on the boners self respect and mental health?
Thinking about it, if a guy in our company asked if anyone minded if he had an erection I would laugh (I imagine others would too) rather than be offended. That reaction would probably serve to make sure he never had one in public again. Or want to.
And as this thread is asking what to do about that pesky erection, maybe laughing at it is the solution.
Well, I was gonna bow out of this discussion, since I've already said what I thought I had to say, and let Jehoram continue it if he wanted to, but ...J, I understand that for offence to be taken someone has to feel offended. How does the boner know no one will be?
That hits the nail on the head right there. Among the people I associate with, the default is that nobody will be offended, and that's what is assumed. If somebody is offended, they're expected to say so. Where you are, apparently, the default is that somebody somewhere is sure to be offended, and everybody has to act as though that person is present.
But what really made me want to respond was this:Or, as our European friends indicated, find it most hilarious, and should the ensuing laughter have a detrimental effect on the boners self respect and mental health?Thinking about it, if a guy in our company asked if anyone minded if he had an erection I would laugh (I imagine others would too) rather than be offended. That reaction would probably serve to make sure he never had one in public again. Or want to.And as this thread is asking what to do about that pesky erection, maybe laughing at it is the solution.
Forgive my French, but that's a hell of a way to make a person feel wanted, isn't it ... make fun of him, make him the object of derision and shame?That's certainly going to make him want to come back and associate with you some more, right? Not only will never see him have an erection again, but you'll probably never see him again, period.
Sheesh. I thought we were supposed to be welcoming people, helping them be comfortable with their nudity if they're embarrassed, and letting them know that we're cool with their nudity. Instead, you're calling attention to the very thing that he's embarrassed about and mocking him for it. If I were that person, I'd just feel humiliated, and decide that social nudism is not for me. Not ever.
I'm sorry, but I just can't see that. I think I'd rather do it my way, thank you.
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