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Thank you Andy you have defined and demonstrated the word troll perfectly.Ive never been labeled an orthodox naturist before. Perhaps I am, but I dont like to label people.Mmmm. Is this fair ... or credible? A classic practice of trolling is posting contrary to facts and disingenuous game-playing..Definitions of internet troll are many and reference a will to be disruptive by posting insulting, rude or even harmful comments, deliberately posting off topic, ignoring facts that are well proven, and being facetious or downright dishonest.Interestingly theres broad agreement that the motivation to troll is one of jealousy. The typical troll is frustrated with his ( research consistently agrees that the majority are male ) own life and craves attention. This is easiest pursued in a cowardly way online which has led some to label trolls closet bullies. This also explains the frequent use of passive aggressive argument and fake victim hood. It also explains why we dont meet these people in real life nudist situations. Either theyre not present / active in those real life communities or are present but are too cowardly to behave as badly as they do online hiding behind their keyboards.Being disruptive and eliciting emotional reactions from other users of social media gives the weak ego a sense of validation through getting attention from those of who hes envious. Youd be forgiven for thinking that, on a base level trolls are just idiots who are a nuisance. However trolling often reveals more sinister personality traits that shouldnt be left unaddressed. Like other negative behaviours, trolling tends to intensify over time and the lengths to which a troll will go increase. This has led to grave harassment and very real harm to real people. So trolling isnt funny or just a weak, narcissistic mans hobby. Its nasty and can even be dangerous.Common troll personality traits observed by psychologists include extreme narcissism coupled with cowardly secrecy about their own identity and lives. Trolls only reveal enough ( commonly fake ) information about themselves to gain access to social media platforms etc and to fabricate an online persona that will give an impression of standing within an online community and help to fake up validity to their deliberately disruptive, disingenuous, pretentious, offensive, and / or wilfully harmful engagement.Standard advice is Dont feed the trolls - they love the attention. And thats what I intend to do - however Stoneandy doesnt deserve the unworthy insinuations of the reply from StevieLorna quoted above. Stoneandy doesnt exhibit any of the traits listed above. Wheres his narcissism? HE doesnt think that 400+ members of TN want to friend him for sex, nor has he researched their profiles and save up their unaccepted friend requests. Wheres his secretiveness? His openness is an example to all of us. Wheres his disrespect? He doesnt insult other members or post in a superior I know best manner. Where are his off topic replies? I could go on and on but .. enough said.The StevieLorna reply quoted above and others of his replies are classic trolling displaying many of the behaviours listed above.There are so many wonderful, kind, open-hearted naturists - why would a troll allow his attention-seeking cowardice to wilfully try to undermine their connections and harm naturism as a whole?Why not join in the discussions in meaningful ways and drop the attempts at being smart? Tell us about your experiences and feelings? Be vulnerable and experience the real naturism of what might be termed shared emotional nudity! The real you probably deserves our attention - so theres no need to troll for it.Stoneandy ( who youve insinuated is a troll ) is exemplary in being open, thoughtful and respectful. Hes revealed personal details that show strength and sincerity. Personally Ive learned from him - I think he deserves respect ... and an apology.

Well said, Thank You. I often wish I had the ability to write like that. I have dealt with that troll / bully before. Someone who did not recognize defence against a bully deleted the conversation. And the troll / bulley saw it as an opportunity to get the last word in, and took it. And probably will again ;-O

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Thank you Andy you have defined and demonstrated the word troll perfectly.Ive never been labeled an orthodox naturist before. Perhaps I am, but I dont like to label people.Mmmm. Is this fair ... or credible? A classic practice of trolling is posting contrary to facts and disingenuous game-playing..Definitions of internet troll are many and reference a will to be disruptive by posting insulting, rude or even harmful comments, deliberately posting off topic, ignoring facts that are well proven, and being facetious or downright dishonest.Interestingly theres broad agreement that the motivation to troll is one of jealousy. The typical troll is frustrated with his ( research consistently agrees that the majority are male ) own life and craves attention. This is easiest pursued in a cowardly way online which has led some to label trolls closet bullies. This also explains the frequent use of passive aggressive argument and fake victim hood. It also explains why we dont meet these people in real life nudist situations. Either theyre not present / active in those real life communities or are present but are too cowardly to behave as badly as they do online hiding behind their keyboards.Being disruptive and eliciting emotional reactions from other users of social media gives the weak ego a sense of validation through getting attention from those of who hes envious. Youd be forgiven for thinking that, on a baselevel trolls are just idiots who are a nuisance. However trolling often reveals more sinister personality traits that shouldnt be left unaddressed. Like other negative behaviours, trolling tends to intensify over time and the lengths to which a troll will go increase. This has led to grave harassment and very real harm to real people. So trolling isnt funny or just a weak, narcissistic mans hobby. Its nasty and can even be dangerous.Common troll personality traits observed by psychologists include extreme narcissism coupled with cowardly secrecy about their own identity and lives. Trolls only reveal enough ( commonly fake ) information about themselves to gain access to social media platforms etc and to fabricate an online persona that will give an impression of standing within an online community and help to fake up validity to their deliberately disruptive, disingenuous, pretentious, offensive, and / or wilfully harmful engagement.Standard advice is Dont feed the trolls - they love the attention. And thats what I intend to do - however Stoneandy doesnt deserve the unworthy insinuations of the reply from StevieLorna quoted above. Stoneandy doesnt exhibit any of the traits listed above. Wheres his narcissism? HE doesnt think that 400+ members of TN want to friend him for sex, nor has he researched their profiles and save up their unaccepted friend requests. Wheres his secretiveness? His openness is an example to all of us. Wheres his disrespect? He doesnt insult other members or post in a superior I know best manner. Where are his off topic replies? I could go on and on but .. enough said.The StevieLorna reply quoted above and others of his replies are classic trolling displaying many of the behaviours listed above.There are so many wonderful, kind, open-hearted naturists - why would a troll allow his attention-seeking cowardice to wilfully try to undermine their connections and harm naturism as a whole?Why not join in the discussions in meaningful ways and drop the attempts at being smart? Tell us about your experiences and feelings? Be vulnerable and experience the real naturism of what might be termed shared emotional nudity! The real you probably deserves our attention - so theres no need to troll for it.Stoneandy ( who youve insinuated is a troll ) is exemplary in being open, thoughtful and respectful. Hes revealed personal details that show strength and sincerity. Personally Ive learned from him - I think he deserves respect ... and an apology.Well said, Thank You. I often wish I had the ability to write like that. I have dealt with that troll / bully before. Someone who did not recognize defence against a bully deleted the conversation. And the troll / bulley saw it as an opportunity to get the last word in, and took it. And probably will again ;-O

Dont give a shit to people who bully you. I dont understand what its the big deal. We are all adults who can easily handle stupid people with stupid behavior.

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Dont give a shit to people who bully you. I dont understand what its the big deal. We are all adults who can easily handle stupid people with stupid behavior.

Everybody is different, I can only do that so long. If you are old enough to have watched in the Popeye cartoon's, you know he had to deal with Brutus the bully. Popeye had a saying which I find to be true, "When enough is enough, enough is to much". At 5'5" and 200 to 220 Lbs most of my life, I am no stranger to being bullied. The best way to deal with them is a fist to the nose, to let them know you will not put up with it. I know that is not a popular idea with the modern efforts to feminise the men in our society.Remember Kenny Rogers song, Sometimes you have to fight when your a man.

You could also look at it as another way to make this site better, if we can get him to knock it off.

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The term trolling hits a deep chord in me. My roots are Scandinavian and trolls are part of our folklore, dating back centuries. Real trolls are derived from the spirits of the dead and live isolated under rocks, mountains, or in caves, and are almost always trouble or dangerous for humans. Many are ugly and slow-witted, but they may also first appear to be humans, but reveal their true nature due to being spiteful, greedy and lacking any compassion. Being a nudist around trolls is also most helpful, as it they in turn cant hide their tails and true identity. Like vampires, trolls cant be exposed to sunlight or theyll turn to stone. You deal with trolls not by giving them attention, but trusting
your wits. Theres a Norwiegan story about a boy named Ashlad who ends up in an eating contest with a troll. He outsmarts the troll by wearing a backpack on his chest and cutting it open to make room for more food. The troll follows his example, except that he cuts his stomach open and dies. Thus, let the trolls out-troll and destroy themselves.

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We have over 400 friends requests pending. They are almost exclusively from single men who either want to have sex with me, Lorna or both of us. We make it clear on our profile that we are genuine naturists and not swingers but they must not have read that.If you are a naturist couple on the internet this is what you have to put up with.This site is dying due to threads like this, polarizing the world into two camps of orthodox nudists and perverts. How can you be so vain to think that 400 people want to have sex with you? And then claim victimhood as a result? People are sexual in nature, we're born that way and it's a gift. And it's our blessing to own and feel our sexuality, though not a right to share it with others without their permission and in public. We need discretion, not denial or repression.I grew up in an ethnic evangelical enclave that also broke the world into the "us" and "sinful others," and claimed victimhood for fighting the good fight by bashing others focused on their favorite sins. I was shamed and abused for asking questions and holding people accountable for their lies and hypcorisy without even rebelling in my behavior. Gay men, whom I was warned about, turned out to be better role models for me of living with authenticity and integrity, and I'm referring to their lifestyle excluding sexuality. Naturism taught me to shed my repression and shame, and I am a better person as a result. Younger people are also a saving grace in being honest, speaking openly and being accepting of themselves and others, while maintaining healthy boundaries. They mainly disregard and distance themselves from toxic and dysfunctional people and places and I don't blame them for disassociating from discussions like this one. They run to the hils and don't want anything to do with TN.TN is becoming an increasingly toxic and polarized forum and is dying as a result. This is sad because we need each other more than we need to suffer from undesirables unlike us. That is unfortunately also a sign of our times. Let us put aside these hateful or spiteful attitudes to listen and be compassionate, respectful and healing instead.

You Sir, have stated the most intelligent words on this particular thread. I applaud you for your open mindedness and honest truth.

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Its a fact that we do have over 400 friends request pending. We get about three a week they rarely contain a message but I always check the profile. Its almost always sexual in nature, either directly in the info or indirectly by which groups they belong too.You are correct that its vain to think they all want to have sex. Maybe they just want to join our book club.No where in this thread have I indicated that we feel victimised. Its not frustrating either, its just how things work on TN.I feel sorry that the OP has had such a bad experience, but I think hes wrong to blame all couples for his lack of a naturist partner. Something he hopes for on his profile .I wish him the best of luck.Three a week? Sounds pretty average to me. So you go to the bother of checking their profile out ... decide you dont want anything to do with them ...but then dont delete their request ? ?? Mmm. And they all want to have sex with one or both of you? Mmm. .. And you dont want anything to do with them but have saved up their friend requests over a couple of years? Mmm. And youre real naturists but theyre definitely not? Mmm Youve made up your own set of naturist rules so you know who is and isnt a real naturist isnt that right? Mmm. Those single naturist types ... probably all weirdos?? Dyou reckon? Mmm. They must be - sure theyre queueing up in their hundreds wanting sex with you. Isnt that right? MmmMy advice? Maybe start deleting your unwanted requests like everyone else does? ...or use the contacts youve made a point of saving up and hire a large party tent and let them all have their dirty way with you. You could even make a video and sell it to the comedy channel!Okay lets be vaguely serious for a moment and consider a married naturist couple of which you might approve. What if their marriage broke up or sadly one of them passed away? Presumably the remaining naturist would need to be recategorised and cast out? Otherwise he ( or she ) would probably join the queue for a piece of you!! And then youd have 401 to tell us all about!Bye bye now!

Perfection set in words !

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Its a fact that we do have over 400 friends request pending. We get about three a week they rarely contain a message but I always check the profile. Its almost always sexual in nature, either directly in the info or indirectly by which groups they belong too.You are correct that its vain to think they all want to have sex. Maybe they just want to join our book club.No where in this thread have I indicated that we feel victimised. Its not frustrating either, its just how things work on TN.I feel sorry that the OP has had such a bad experience, but I think hes wrong to blame all couples for his lack of a naturist partner. Something he hopes for on his profile .I wish him the best of luck.

Why have you kept these so called 400 requests ? What makes you two so damned wonderful, or assume that all those 400 want to have sex with either or both of you ! You state you don't feel victimised, yet that is exactly what you are doing to others who don't agree with your bitchy words, VICTIMISING them. I will also ask, why the hell do the so called couples on here feel so threatened by single guys or women wanting to possibly befriend you or any other couple ? It does not make a difference what a persons sexuality is, you don't have the right to assume that either one of these people wants to have sex with one or either of you.

IF this is how things work on TN, then either let it go or shut the hell up being a pair of bitches about it. The OP may have had a bad experience, maybe not, he simply pointed out the bigotry of people like yourselves.

There is also the fact, in particular with some straight guys, that if a gay guy likes your profile or even comments on your pictures, your automatically assuming they are after your dick ! That's a false assumption on your behalf, not every gay man or woman is a fucking sex pest or may want to contact you just to see if they can get into your internal organs, that Cliche is older than time itself.

It also goes to show, just how immature your imaginations are, why do you feel violated if someone clicks LIKE on your profile ? A dick is a dick, not every gay man does or will want to try it out for size, get the hell over yourselves.

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Thank you Andy you have defined and demonstrated the word troll perfectly.Ive never been labeled an orthodox naturist before. Perhaps I am, but I dont like to label people.

How can you state that you don't like to label people, when that is exactly what you are doing with your words !! You seem to forget that most of us can read between the lines and realise exactly what you mean and say !!!

Stone Andy is obviously a damned intelligent man, and his words are very spot on in how he sees and views what others say on here, as does Em1Dub.

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Woodsman we dont have any experience of English naturism either, but dont worry about it, its a mistake you Canadians often make.

Your from Lanarkshire, Although it's Scotland, how the hell can you say, you have no experience of English Naturism ? Have neither of you ever been to a nudist beach here in the UK ? If you have only ever been to European nudist beaches/resorts, then you should both have a more open minded idea of just how free most European cultures are about naturism/nudity !

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Thank you Andy you have defined and demonstrated the word troll perfectly.Ive never been labeled an orthodox naturist before. Perhaps I am, but I dont like to label people.Mmmm. Is this fair ... or credible? A classic practice of trolling is posting contrary to facts and disingenuous game-playing..Definitions of internet troll are many and reference a will to be disruptive by posting insulting, rude or even harmful comments, deliberately posting off topic, ignoring facts that are well proven, and being facetious or downright dishonest.Interestingly theres broad agreement that the motivation to troll is one of jealousy. The typical troll is frustrated with his ( research consistently agrees that the majority are male ) own life and craves attention. This is easiest pursued in a cowardly way online which has led some to label trolls closet bullies. This also explains the frequent use of passive aggressive argument and fake victimhood. It also explains why we dont meet these people in real life nudist situations. Either theyre not present / active in those real life communities or are present but are too cowardly to behave as badly as they do online hiding behind their keyboards.Being disruptive and eliciting emotional reactions from other users of social media gives the weak ego a sense of validation through getting attention from those of whom hes envious. Youd be forgiven for thinking that, on a base level trolls are living caricatures of low achievers who are a nuisance. However trolling often reveals more sinister personality traits that shouldnt be left unaddressed. Like other negative behaviours, trolling tends to intensify over time and the lengths to which a troll will go increase. This has led to grave harassment and very real harm to real people. So trolling isnt funny or just a weak, narcissistic mans hobby. Its nasty and can even be dangerous.Common troll personality traits observed by psychologists include extreme narcissism coupled with cowardly secrecy about their own true identity and lives. Trolls only reveal enough ( commonly fake ) information about themselves to gain access to social media platforms etc and to fabricate an online persona that will give an impression of standing / credibility within an online community and help to fake up validity to their deliberately disruptive, disingenuous, pretentious, offensive, and / or wilfully harmful engagement.Standard advice is Dont feed the trolls - they love the attention. And thats what I intend to do - however Stoneandy doesnt deserve the unworthy insinuations of the reply from StevieLorna quoted above. Stoneandy doesnt exhibit any of the traits listed above. Wheres his narcissism? HE doesnt think that 400+ members of TN want to friend him for sex, nor has he researched their profiles and saved up their unaccepted friend requests. Wheres his secretiveness? His openness is an example to all of us. Wheres his disrespect? He doesnt insult other members or post in a superior I know best manner. Where are his off topic replies? I could go on and on but .. enough said.The StevieLorna reply quoted above and others of his replies are classic trolling displaying many of the behaviours listed above.There are so many wonderful, kind, open-hearted naturists - why would a troll allow his attention-seeking cowardice to wilfully try to undermine their connections and harm naturism as a whole?Why not join in the discussions in meaningful ways and drop the attempts at being smart? Tell us about your experiences and feelings? Be vulnerable and experience the real naturism of what might be termed shared emotional nudity! The real you probably deserves our attention - so theres no need to troll for it.Stoneandy ( who youve insinuated is a troll ) is exemplary in being open, thoughtful and respectful. Hes revealed personal details that show strength and sincerity. Personally Ive learned from him - I think he deserves respect ... and an apology.

Thank you Em1Dub, yourself and StoneAndy show exactly who the real troll is ! You guys are a TRUE inspiration to myself and hopefully a lot of other people on here.

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